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  1. what are your thoughts on holy spirit tongue speaking capability,the gift from god,like Jesus promised that it’ll be given by father?On Mathhews some verse said the lane to heaven is too tight although you have a page about that here. What do you think of evil spirits,possessed ones,who can cast them out??The witchcraft’s real ,in fact where i live one guy made a girl to fall in love with him via that voodoo shit,but girl later became mentally ill-like,how can one get protected from such attack? The crazy thing is some witchdoctor having some spirit can cast out bad ones out like easy.I know a lady,she had that spirit since child and her god is some Hindu one,but anyway she does good deeds. for people,once she told the location description of our house by just taking our sample soil..Is it a scam by Satan like deceiving tryna be good guy who cast outs own puppets.. Phew would be helpful if you can elaborate on that Sulaiman..


    1. Hello Roshi, you have asked many questions and it would be difficult to explain all of what you ask. It appears that you are intermixing scripture with worldly superstitions. Speaking in tongues is not what you commonly see in church in which a person utters unintelligible gibberish in which nobody is able to understand or interpret. Speaking in tongues means to be speaking in another language as in the case in Acts 2. I’m not exactly sure what your question is about heaven. The bible speaks about demonic possession and it was often associated with some form of disease or sickness. I do not spend a lot of time studying these things because people get too caught up with superstitions and it’s hard for them to separate truth from lies. Everything from Satan is a scam including the doctrine of hell and the counterfeit gospel of Christ but people believe it anyway. Hope this helps…

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      1. You are so right on with the truth of the word it has set me free! I do have a Question: In 1 Corinthians 14… talks about speaking in tongues. You said the early church SIT, does that mean it is not addressed to us?


      2. We are told in 1 Corinthians 13 that prophesying and speaking in tongues will CEASE. Paul also tells us that faith, hope, and love is what abides now so I believe that the times of speaking in tongues has passed. If you read the whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 14, Paul makes it clear what the purpose was for speaking in tongues. In the modern church of today, there are NO interpreters to interpret the message so what would be the point? I believe that the speaking in tongues that exists in the church today is done in vain and out of ignorance. Most people mean well but they just don’t know the truth because the truth is hardly taught. That’s why I don’t bother with church among other obvious reasons. Thanks for your question and I’d be happy to answer any other questions you may have.


      3. Thank you for getting back to me on the subject on sit. In my former church, {no longer go to any church} we did speak in tongues and interpret. It was done deceit and in order in a home fellowship.I always rehearsed my interpretation beforehand, because we might be called on to sit and interpret! It didn’t seem very spiritual to me! I wonder if sit in my private life would benefit me? I was told it was perfect prayer. I was also told that only the Epistles are addressed to the called out church of today our time. Every thing else is for our learning.


      4. There is so much deception and corruption in the modern church that I would strongly doubt that the Holy Spirit is leading any of its religious activities. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone but I would be doing a disservice if I withheld the truth. I can’t really speak on whether speaking in tongues would benefit anyone’s prayer life but I’m convinced that most people do not understand the purpose of prayer. Prayer is for us and not for God. God already knows what is going to happen before we do and God already knows what we will do before we do it. As long as our prayers are in accord with God’s will, then there is no need to worry about whether prayer is perfect or not because our prayers are in line with God’s will anyway.

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      5. According to 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10, Paul says “don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortionists, will inherit God’s Kingdom.”
        could you explain this Bible verse to me Thanks


      6. Not really… I know that there is story in Matthew 17 were a boy was suffering from seizures and Jesus cured him by casting a demon out of him but I not confident that whatever the demon was doing to him is the same thing as what is known of modern epilepsy. Essentially all diseases and sickness can be linked to the effects of sin but I don’t believe that demons are necessarily responsible for causing them.


  2. Luke 17:20-21 Like you mentioned in one of your page,Heaven’s within ourselves,that resembles to Sanatan Dharma as in Hinduism,SO how is heaven within ourselves when we ourselves are creation of God?.In Matthews Bible NT it says the path to heaven is narrow.Well,also the facts i wrote to you are not superstitions. I witnessed lady witchdoctor who shakes and all during her pray session to one of Hindu Goddess,and only during her pray session she can cast out spirits,tell the cures,etc.Other times she’s normal like us. SO,MY question:How is she able to do that stuffs whilst Christianity claims that only Jesus can do that,So, is it deception played out ? My friend speaks gibberish in middle of pray to Jesus but he claims it’s holy spirit within him and he has changed ever since,i can see no sins like he used to commit. I truly think you haven’t witnessed spirit deeds like myself but like yourself i don’t like the idea of Fearmongering. At the moment i am doing best to follow 10 commandments,yes it’s real hard to ignore a girl even if it’s not a rape,yes it’s hard to hold up the anger when nuisance hits your face. Do you suggest sticking best to commandments?


    1. Heaven is not physical. We are physically created beings with a physical body. God is Spirit and the only way that we can experience God is to experience Him spiritually. I believe the passage about the path to heaven being narrow is referenced from Matthew 7:14. The problem with most people in regards to understanding this scripture is that most people think “heaven” is a literal physical place with streets of gold, mansions, and pearly gates. The path is narrow because many people do not understand or believe the real gospel of Christ. This is because Satan deceives the whole world with the Babylonish-like (worldly) religious system with many evil false doctrines and traditions of men. In regards to some of the other things that you have seen or experienced, I place my spiritual understanding on the authority of the holy scriptures of the bible and what you described sounds like you witnessed Satanic power and deception. I do not study or practice Hinduism religion so I can’t speak on some of the things you’ve mentioned. I haven’t witnessed spirit deeds nor do I think it is something that I need to experience but to each his or her own. I do not even think about following the 10 commandments. You seem to at least understand that sin is an issue with our hearts and not just outwardly actions. The power of Christ can and will change our hearts if we first submit to him first.


  3. Last question Mr.Sulaiman, in daily life what do you do yourself when somebody annoys you too much,judge you? Do you self-defense and punch em in the face?or are we supposed to walk off? I know we’re supposed to be calm and forgive but for me if someone crosses their boundary and ourselves being teased at being p****y sucks much, hope you now what i mean..DOES scripture say something about SElf-defense?? I justified that by thinking If we in that right path we won’t get into trouble any way but then that’s just possibility.. And i recall you said about tongue speaking has to be in another language,BUt my friend in the middle of pray, he speaks gibberish may be i don’t know ,it can be spanish , He even claimed that he had seen Jesus at church during mass prayer,when asked about description of white robes,etc.
    Thank you for your answers and which is best reference King James Bible,is it?


    1. I try not to associate or surround myself with negative people. It is impossible to completely be removed from jerks but even negative situations can turn out to be a good for our learning. How would a person ever work on their anger if they never were presented with a situation that made them angry? I do not like to answer “what if” questions because the “what if’s” become never ending but I do not know of any scripture that teaches about self-defense but one can use “common sense” in many life situations. I find that avoiding certain people or situations is probably the best course to take. In regards to speaking in tongues, the purpose of tongues was to edify and to build up the early church. Prayer should be private and personal. Christ speaks against praying in public for people to see you. I suspect that your friend has learned this speaking in gibberish and thinks that it is spiritual. Many people believe and think that this type of behavior is spiritual. I would be careful believing anyone that claims to have seen Jesus because seeing Christ would eliminate the need to have faith for faith is believing what is not seen. There is no such thing as a best translation. All translations have errors because it is impossible for any person to truly understand the meaning of words in the original languages and to find words and phrases that have similar meanings in a totally different language. I use many translations but I believe that the Concordant translations are as accurate as I’ve seen. Also is a good site that lets you view many translations online. This is a great way to study the scriptures. I also use which is a site that allows you to look up the Greek and Hebrew words.


  4. Sulaiman thank you for your indept study of scripture,i am a believer, only truly beliving within in the last year,i thank the lord god almighty ,for this revelation of his son jesus the christ and the holy spirit..i have been struggeling to understand scripture,and how to decern truth from it i live in ireland and have been exposed to christian infighting[ catholic vs prodestant] which lead me on a path of just throwing caution to the wind ,but now i see ..i feel alienated ,alone… but yet happy to know the truth,even though i dont fully understand it fully yet,i guess i am a babe in christ amen,my problem at the moment is how do i draw close or abide in god,i find it hard to pray because i dont know what to say,how does one approach a allmighty creator,i get doubts that i am not wheat and am only a morning just befour sunrise during the summer of 2013 i was up the feild behind the homestead waiting for the sun to break the horizon[about 4.30 am i think] i was in awe as i could feel the first light of photons hit my face ,it was spectacular to feel and see a beautyfull sky not painting cant potray that moment,but as i turned to go back to the house a voice as clear as crystal,surrounded me and was in said WALK WITH ME..noting more noting less didnt say who it was,i hope and believe that it was the workings of god allmighty,after that i thought it could be lucifer..the morning star,and then ,dont be decived for satan cant come as a angel of light,any way i like to believe in the true and holy one,that suffered for me on the cross,for i was no saint growing up,thank you jesus for this post and bless sulaiman i hope to find the truth..amen


    1. I do not profess to be a part of the religion of Christianity only to disassociate myself with the Christian church that has substituted the gospel of Jesus Christ with a perverted version that requires a person to “choose” Christ or burn in hell forever. This view is not only unscriptural it is anti-scriptural.


      1. so you can describe yourself as the first “cristians” were? (in 1+2 corintians Peter describe them.)
        Do you feel the Lord? i mean if sometimes you feel someone who is helping you..
        Do you keep the Sabbath?


      2. I describe myself as a believer and what the Bible calls God’s elect. No I do not “feel” God literally but I do experience God’s power in my life. I do not keep the Sabbath nor do I bind myself to any religious practices.

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  5. I’ve read a few of your posts, and seriously enjoyed them. I always stress the importance of the original words used because I know passages of the Bible can be completely taken out of context. I’ve only recently started diving into the scriptures, baptized into a Church of Christ last year (I’ve actually been shunned for arguing that the word “fornication” does not include anything about premarital sex because of the Greek word used and the situations when fornication was used). And that’s why I want to ask you this: You said you do not associate with Christianity/the Christian church. But in Acts, the Bible states that the people in Antioch were called Christians. Additionally, “churches of Christ/God” were used a few times throughout the NT, and the Christ did say he would build his church. And a scripture also says to never forsake the assembly of ourselves (church is the assembly/called out ones). Do you mind briefly explaining this? Perhaps making a post about the church of Christ he said he would build? I do believe that the Church of Christ is the only church the Christ spoke of, and how it is important to attend church and have communion every first day of the week. Then again, I also have not read the Bible in its entirety, just those scriptures. That’s why I’m actually reading the Bible because I do not want to believe in false doctrines and I am truly seeking God.


    1. Hello De’Zsa, I’m glad that you have enjoyed my writings. In regards to your question about the Church of Christ specifically, I would have to do some research about that particular denomination to give you a detailed answer but I can confidently say that any Christian church that goes against God’s word is anti-Christ. In the book of Revelations, Jesus Christ has called the “true believers” out of the corrupt Christian church that has committed “spiritual fornication” with the kingdoms of this world. Now what does spiritual fornication mean? Well if we understand that the bible symbolizes Christ and His church as being married (Christ being the bridgegroom and the church being the bride), then we can understand why the church has committed spiritual fornication. The Christian church has substituted man-made doctrines and traditions over God’s word. Jesus Christ is the word of God. So if we understand this spiritual message, this is equivalent to a wife committing adultery against her husband. So for this reason, I do not associate myself with any organized religion. Now, I do not disagree that it was important to fellowship with like minded believers, but in the days of the early church, they met and worshiped at people houses and not only in temples. It soon became dangerous and impossible for true Christians to worship in public buildings due to the persecution of the early church. Now, the doctrines of the Christian church as a whole which includes all denominations is so corrupt and deceived that I take no part in the activities of church or religion.


  6. Wow, this really opened my eyes. But who are God’s elect? I know I’ve read this blog but, how do I stop feeling that I’m being decieved?


    1. God’s elect refers to the few people who are called and chosen during this life to overcome the world. These people are called out of the corrupt Christian church and will reign with Christ for 1,000 years at his second coming. Just as most of the world was destroyed by the flood in the days of Noah when only “8” people were saved, so shall it be at Christ’s second coming. Many people, actually most people will not know or recognize Christ when he returns. There are more than 2.5 billion professing Christians in this world but this is what Christ has to say;

      Luke 18:7-8 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

      The Greek word “ara” is translated as the word “when” in Luke 18:8. The word “ara” is a Greek interrogative participle that implies a negative response. So when Christ asks the question, “shall the son of man find faith on the earth when he comes”? The answer is virtually no save God’s elect which is a small few in comparison to what the Christian church represents.

      But this doesn’t mean that those who perish will suffer the fate of eternal torture in hell or eternal destruction. God is love and He is merciful. God will teach righteousness to all humanity when God’s judgments are in the earth. God judges in righteousness. The Christian church thinks that God is such an evil vindictive bastard that is hell-bent on torturing people with real fire. This belief is not only evil, it is blasphemous. I do not know where God is leading you. Actually I struggle to even know where God is leading me at times but staying faithful even in moments of weakness is important. If you are still feeling deceived, I would imagine that there are some doctrines that you aren’t willing to give up just yet. We give allegiance to the things we believe and if what we believe is not supported by God’s word, these things serve as idols in our lives. We must ask God to help us expose and destroy these idols so that we can be free. Why do you feel as though you are still deceived?


  7. Because people say that the devil wants you to think there is no hell.

    May I ask you another question what does the broad road that leads to desttuction mean? Does it mean the grave?



    1. Yes, I’ve heard that silly statement before. These are the same people that will say that Jesus spoke more about hell than he did heaven which is the most untrue statement I’ve ever heard. This can easily be proven to be a lie by going to and searching the words heaven and hell. Hell is a translated word and I can assure that Christ never said the word hell because he didn’t speak English. Christ talked about hades and geenna and neither one of these Greek words has anything to do with being tortured in real fire. I can confidently say that the devil actually wants people to believe in hell because people who believe in hell feel the need to do something about their own salvation out of fear. The devil wants you to take responsibility for God’s job. The best way to control people is to use fear and what better way to scare people into submission than the threat of eternal torture? Hell is a doctrine of insane evil and God has put it on my heart to expose this Christian heresy so that people who will hear the truth can be set free from the spiritual terrorism that the doctrine of hell creates. Now to answer your question, you have quoted, Matthew 7:13;

      Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

      This verse is commonly understood by the Christian church to be referencing the lost unsaved population or in effect, those who do not have a personal relationship with Christ. According to the Christian church, this broad way that leads to destruction is the path to their evil fabled hell if you don’t endorse their religious requirements for salvation. I can tell you that there are bible scholars and theologians with doctorate degrees who believe this garbage.

      In regards to what Christ is saying in Matthew 7:13, we must first understand that Christ is talking about the few or God’s elect. Let’s read Matthew 7:14;

      Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. [Christ is speaking about age-abiding life or the millennial reign that will be given to the few (God’s elect) that He has called out of the world for this specific purpose.] So we are looking at TWO groups of people; the many who go the broad way that leads to destruction and the few that go the narrow way which leads to life. Since it is only a few that take the narrow way, the broad way to destruction is the path that many will take for a variety of reasons. The parable of the sower in Luke 8 explains this very well. Because of Satan’s deception and the evil strongholds in this world, (desire for riches, lusts of the flesh, pride, etc.) many succumb to the broad way that leads to destruction. Now the Greek word that is translated as “destruction” in Matthew 7:13 comes from the Greek word “apōleia” which is a presumed derivative of the Greek word “apollymi”. This Greek word “apollymi” is translated as the words perish, destroy, and lost. Let me share a revelation with you;

      Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost (Greek – apollymi). So Christ came to save those who perish, those who are destroyed, and those who are lost. All of these words mean the same thing because they are all translated from the same Greek word. So even though “many” will go the broad way that leads to destruction, the salvation that is promised in Christ doesn’t have an expiration date. The Christian church believes that God can only do His saving work in this life but this is not true. God will have ALL MEN to be saved and come into the knowledge of truth. 1 Timothy 2:3-4

      God be with you, hope this helps…


      1. 1 Timothy 2:3 & 4 says that it’s His DESIRE that all men come to the knowledge of the truth, not that they will. He wants all of us to, but not all will because of unbelief. His desire and His will is two different things. He desires that we don’t sin, but we do. It’s His will to make a way for us, and He did. Do you mind explaining what you feel John meant, when he wrote that death and hell was taken up and cast into the lake of fire, and that all those who’s names are NOT written in the Book Of Life were cast there as well to burn for eternity? And what do you feel happens to the one’s who reject Christ when they die? Thanks.


      2. Response to 1 Timothy 2:3-4;
        Actually it is God’s WILL to have ALL MEN to be saved and to come into the knowledge of truth. The word “desire” is used in other translations as a substitute for will or would but the Greek word here in question is “thelō” and it is translated as will/would 159 times out of the 210 times it is used in the New Testament of the KJV. Whether it is will or desire, it is of little consequence when considering the sovereignty of God. Is it possible for a truly sovereign God to will or desire anything and not be sovereign enough to make it come to pass? The Creator’s will or desire is not determined or influenced by the will or desire of the Creator’s creation.

        Isaiah 46:10-11 DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, MY COUNSEL SHALL STAND, and I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I HAVE SPOKEN IT, I WILL ALSO BRING IT TO PASS; I HAVE PURPOSED IT, I WILL ALSO DO IT.

        I don’t believe there is a verse in the whole bible that explains the sovereignty of God more than this verse quoted above. Make no mistake about it. God desires and He wills to have all men to be saved and if God says He WILL do it… I believe him! Some of your statements are made with unscriptural pretenses. Man’s unbelief is determined by God.

        Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them ALL IN UNBELIEF, that he might have MERCY UPON ALL. God has mercy on some and He hardens others. [Paul tells us in Romans 11 that ALL ISRAEL shall be saved in spite of their UNBELIEF which led to the flogging and crucifixion of our Lord.]

        It is not an accurate claim to say that God desires that we don’t sin but we do. Humans do not sin because we choose to disobey God by missing His mark. Humans sin because God created us to miss His mark.

        Romans 8:20 For THE CREATURE WAS MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

        The creature [humans] was made [by God] subject to vanity [made devoid of truth and not fit for a particular purpose] not willingly [we didn’t get a say in the matter] but by reason of him [God’s will] who hath subject the same [humans] in hope, [GOD has a plan and it is working to PERFECTION according to His will, and not ours.]

        What is this hope of God’s plan? Next verse…

        Romans 8:21 Because THE CREATURE ITSELF ALSO SHALL BE DELIVERED FROM THE BONDAGE OF CORRUPTION into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

        God created BOTH the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and EVIL in the same midst of the garden. Both were made pleasant to the sight and good for food. If God didn’t have a purpose for doing this, one could conclude that mankind was set up by God to fail. Remember in Genesis that we were created in God’s image and we are becoming like God but we must first have knowledge of good and evil. We cannot have knowledge of evil unless we experience evil. This is the purpose of sin. How can we appreciate life if we do not understand or have any knowledge of death?

        It is a fact that God is NOT leading ALL MEN into the knowledge of truth in this present wicked age. This age will come to an end and there will be a future age when God will judge the world in righteousness.
        Habakkuk 2:14 For THE EARTH SHALL BE FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE GLORY OF THE LORD, as the waters cover the sea. [When the earth is filled with the knowledge of God’s glory, ALL MEN will be compelled to believe.]

        Response to your question about what happens to the ones that the bible says won’t inherit eternal life.

        I believe that the bible is very clear about this but one must listen to and believe what the word of God says. Does God really promise “eternal life” for faithful believers? In John 5:28-29, Christ says;

        Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which ALL THAT ARE IN THE GRAVES shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto THE RESURRECTION OF LIFE; and they that have done evil, unto the RESURRECTION OF DAMNATION. (Damnation is not a proper translation for the Greek word “krisis”. It should be translated as judgment and not damnation.)

        So Christ tells us that there are two resurrection events: the first resurrection to life and the second resurrection to judgment. Let me ask you this. What would be the point in being resurrected to life if a person is already in heaven experiencing eternal life? A person must be dead before they can be resurrected to life. The reason I’m explaining this is because believers aren’t promised eternal life, they are promised “aionious” life which is age-lasting life. This is the same age-lasting life that is referred to as the 1,000 year reign with Christ. 1,000 years is not an eternity, it’s pretty darn long but not eternal. Let me show you what happens to those who don’t inherit “aionious” life or those who participate in the second resurrection.

        Revelation 20:4-5 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. BUT THE REST OF THE DEAD LIVED NOT AGAIN UNTIL THE THOUSAND YEARS WERE FINISHED. This is the first resurrection.

        Did you catch that? The rest of the dead (these are the ones that do NOT inherit “aionious” life) DID NOT LIVE AGAIN until when…? Until the 1,000 year reign with Christ is finished. Remember that Christ said in John 5:28 that all that are in the GRAVES so the rest of the dead remain in the grave where they don’t live again until they are resurrected to “age-lasting” judgment.

        Here is a good transition to your second question about death and hell being cast in the lake of fire. This has nothing to do with anyone burning for all eternity. We have to let scripture explain scripture. This death and hell is really death and the grave as the word hell in this scripture comes from the Greek word hades and hades is translated as GRAVE (not hell) in 1 Corinthians 15:55; O death, where is thy sting? O grave (hades), where is thy victory?

        Why did the KJV translators translate hades as grave in this verse but hell in Revelation 20:14? Because Paul tells us that there is VICTORY over this “death and hades” and the KJV translators didn’t want people knowing that there was victory over their hell so they put grave in 1 Corinthians 15:55 instead of hell. The majority of 1 Corinthians 15 deals with the glorious truth of ALL being made alive in Christ;

        1 Corinthians 15:22 For as IN ADAM ALL DIE, even so IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE. [People believe the first part of this verse but how many people believe the second part?]

        Isaiah 25:8 HE WILL SWALLOW UP DEATH IN VICTORY; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.
        In order for death to be swallowed up in victory all must be given life. Remember that the wages of sin is death. Death gets its power from sin but death is swallowed up in victory. If death is swallowed up in victory, then sin no longer has any power. Now remember that both death and the grave are cast into the lake of fire but we just learned that we have victory over death and the grave. What does this teach us about the lake of fire? Notice in Isaiah 25:8 that God is going to wipe away tears from ALL FACES. The lake of fire is God’s process of destroying death, the grave, and sin but not humans.

        Response to what happens to those who reject Christ when they die;

        When people die, they go to the grave where they experience absolutely NOTHING and it doesn’t matter what the person did in their life. People only experience sentient activity when they are alive. This occurs in the resurrection and the wicked, lost, and unbelieving will participate in the resurrection to judgment where they will experience God’s trans-formative process of being made into a righteous child of God. Paul gives us an excellent example of this process in 1 Corinthians 3:13-15;

        1 Corinthians 3:13 EVERY MAN’S WORK shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the FIRE SHALL TRY EVERY MAN’S WORK of what sort it is. [Paul is clearly talking to believers but this verse says “every man’s work” so this is not talking about believers only but everyone. We can be sure that this is referring to all men because Paul tells us that the “day” shall declare it. That particular day is the Day of Judgment –God’s purging fiery judgment on all mankind. On this day, every man’s work good or bad will be exposed.

        1 Corinthians 3:14-15 If ANY MAN’S WORK ABIDE which he hath built thereupon, HE SHALL RECEIVE A REWARD. If ANY MAN’S WORK SHALL BE BURNED, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as BY FIRE. [This is an important verse to understand because this verse is typically never discussed in any Christian church. If any man’s work shall be burned he shall suffer loss but he himself shall be saved. Did you get that last part? After God does all the casting into the lake of fire (which is His fire consuming Spirit) He will purge out all of the evil works (suffer loss) but the person will be saved. Let’s go back to 1 Corinthians 3:11-12,

        For other FOUNDATION CAN NO MAN LAY THAN THAT IS LAID, which is JESUS CHRIST. Now if ANY MAN BUILD UPON THIS FOUNDATION gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Notice that Paul tells us that we build upon this foundation. This foundation is Christ and we build on it with all of our faith, beliefs, doctrines, and actions. Notice that Paul makes a comparison between gold, silver, and precious stones to wood, hay, and stubble. If I put the first 3 real substances (gold, silver, precious stones) in a real literal fire, the gold, silver, and precious stones will become refined because that is the practical purpose of fire – to refine substances of VALUE. Now if I do that same for the last 3 real substances (wood, hay, and stubble) in a real fire, they will burn up because these materials are combustible and they have little value. What is the spiritual message that Paul is trying to teach us? All of these substances represent the things that we build upon our foundation. The gold, silver, and precious stones represent the spiritual and godly attributes that we have obtained through our walk with Christ if we indeed are following Christ and allowing him to transform our lives. These things will be remain and a reward will be received. The wood, hay, and stubble represent our carnal nature, evil thoughts, and lustful desires. These things will be figuratively burned out and people will “suffer loss” during this process. What does it mean to suffer loss? Hasn’t Christ already provided us with some words of advice about this matter?

        Luke 9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and LOSE himself, or be cast away?
        The phrase “suffer loss” as it is used in 1 Corinthians 3:15 is translated from the Greek word zēmioō and it means to affect with damage. The word “lose” as it is used by Christ in Luke 9:25 comes from the same Greek word zēmioō. There’s more;

        Matthew 16:24-25 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, LET HIM DENY HIMSELF, and take up his cross, and follow me. For WHOSOEVER WILL SAVE HIS LIFE SHALL LOSE IT: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

        The word lose in Matthew 16:25 is translated from a different Greek word and it is “apollymi”. This word is also translated as the word perish and destroy. So what does all of this mean? Remember that in 1 Corinthians 3:15, we are told that people that have their work burned will suffer loss but they will be saved. This tells us that people are not permanently destroyed or perished but there are many people that are stubborn, mean to others, have uncontrollable sins of the flesh, addictions, and all types of work that make up our sinful carnality. When people live for the carnal man of sin, this is the person that you become. When you deny yourself, you give up or LOSE these things but for those who do not give them up for Christ in this life, they will suffer loss because they will not want to give them up willingly in the day of judgment. It is NOT easy denying ones self. It is difficult to die to the pulls and lusts of the flesh. This is what suffering loss means and this process will not be the same for everyone because the works of each individual person will be different. What I can promise you is that this “suffering loss” has nothing to do with being literally tortured with real fire in the evil pagan hell of Christianity.

        I hope this helps your understanding…


  8. Hello, “LuvMaBaybeez” here. Just waiting on your response to my questions on YouTube. I’ll browse your website in the meantime.


    1. Hey, this is my reply to your last YouTube post;

      I understand your point about God’s immortality and that He will give spiritual bodies in the resurrection but this doesn’t in any way support the idea that the life part of a person can exist separate from a body. That is your interpretation but I just do not agree with you that this is supported by scripture. Furthermore, your interpretation of Hebrews 11 requires you to bend the truth in order to support you belief in this literal “heaven and hell”. These are both unscriptural doctrines. Dying in faith means that a person had faith when they died but the fact remains that they did die.

      The bible is clear that righteous and wicked go to the same place regardless of the choices you and I make in this life. We will all still find our end at the grave;
      Ecclesiastes 9:2 ALL THINGS COME ALIKE TO ALL: there is ONE EVENT TO THE RIGHTEOUS, AND TO THE WICKED; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath.

      This event is referring to dying and going to the GRAVE as it is made very clear that this is the subject of Ecclesiastes 9. Changing the meaning of scripture doesn’t make it true. Humans do not have a soul, humans are souls and humans die. There is nothing you can do in your life to avoid going to the grave.

      2 Corinthians 5:8 is a very difficult verse to interpret because many people and preachers alike continue to teach that this is referring to going to a literal heaven at death. This is not what Paul is teaching but I know that there is nothing I can show you or tell you that would make you think otherwise. You have accepted these carnal ideas of men as God’s word and you will not understand the truth until you let go of these doctrines of men. For people who believe in a literal heaven, what is the point of being resurrected from the dead if people are really alive in heaven? This belief is so silly and against what scripture teaches. People need and want to feel like they are special and deserving of something great so this imaginary idea of a literal heaven has been created. Here is an example in scripture about death and resurrection with no mention of a heaven or a hell.

      John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. [You see, Martha knew that her brother Lazarus was dead and in the grave. He’d been dead at this point for four days. She knew very well that he wasn’t in heaven or hell but would rise again in the resurrection. This whole idea of going to a literal heaven was foreign to Martha and the early church. Heaven and hell are modern carnal man-made inventions.
      Your interpretation of Ecclesiastes 12:7 is so ridiculous that it is clear to me that you are stretching God’s word only to support your views. This verse clearly explains that at death, our bodies return to the dust from which we came and the spirit returns to God. Notice that it says “THE SPIRIT” and not “OUR SPIRIT”. This “spirit” doesn’t belong to us, it was given to us and at death, it is taken away. A living human being is a soul which includes body and spirit. When a person dies, both the body and the spirit return to their sources and a person does not exist again until they are resurrected. I agree that the spirit of God gives us our feelings and emotions but we do not experience these things without a body. A person can only experience sight through the eyes. Take away someone eyes and they no longer can experience sight. To suggest that a person can see without eyes is ridiculous and it is equally ridiculous to suggest that the immaterial part of a person can live without a body.

      In regards to Romans 6:23, yes it is true that we all die because we are all sinners but the gift of God is “aionious” life not eternal life. The Greek word aionious has been translated as the word eternal in Romans 6:23. Aionious means age abiding and this is what Christ spoke about. Christ never promised anyone eternal life. That is another Christian invention.
      In regards to Matthew 10:28, the word that is translated as soul in this verse is also translated as the word “life” in 40 other scriptures. It is clear that a body and life (spirit) make up a human soul but a person can only kill your body. A person cannot even touch the life part. Only God can kill the life part. This doesn’t in any way prove that the life of a human can exist without a body.
      In regards to Matthew 25:41, again, this word everlasting is also translated from the Greek word aionious which means age abiding. Furthermore, Christ is not talking about literal fire. Fire is used symbolically in scripture many times;

      1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. [You think this is talking about literal fire? Can I burn your work (actions, thoughts, beliefs, etc.) with real fire?] This is spiritual stuff but the carnal human brain can’t interpret these things. Age-abiding fire is not hell. Real fire cannot harm the devil as the devil is a spirit being. The word hell is not even in Matthew 25:41 but this is commonly understood by the Christian church that “everlasting fire” and “hell” has to be the same thing and it is not. They are both products of bad translations.

      In regards to Matthew 25:26 and all of the other verse with eternal and everlasting in them, read these verses that you’ve quoted in Young’s Literal Translation. This translation was translated from the Greek not from other translations like the King James. Most bibles are translations from Latin because the Latin Vulgate predated ALL English translations. The Latin Vulgate is known to have been a corrupt translation as it was used by the Roman Catholic Church to control people with fear. This is well documented if you study the history of the Christian church before the Reformation movement.

      In regards to Revelation 21:8, you ask me to explain to me what the lake of fire is and what exactly is meant by the second death? I know what both of these symbols represent but I do not know if you are capable of understanding it based on your carnal interpretations of other scriptures. I will tell you that the lake of fire IS NOT a literal lake of fire and the second death is not a literal physical mortal death. These are all symbols because the whole book of Revelation was signified (meaning symbolized) by an angel of the Lord. The book of Revelation is probably the most difficult bible book to interpret so I do not like when people quote scripture from this book because I’m very confident that most people do not understand this book. I don’t understand all of it myself, but I believe that God has revealed to me some truth concerning the spiritual messages of Revelation. If you want to know what these symbols present, read my post, “The Lake of Fire: This is a Symbol”.

      Now you asked me what all of this is for is there is no hell? What is God’s plan? Death is the penalty for sin. We are all sinners so we will all die. God sent Jesus to die on the cross to atone for the sins of the whole world. This is all God’s process in transforming us into his image so that we will all be sons and daughters of God. Remember in Genesis that we have become like God because we have knowledge of good and EVIL. How is it that we should attain this knowledge of evil if we do not experience evil? Hell has no place in God’s work. Hell is an evil man-made doctrine of insanity. Christ does not save anyone from this pagan torture chamber. Jesus saves us from the permanent state of DEATH because in death we can never experience or have a relationship with God. The power of Christ is in the RESURRECTION. We don’t stay dead in the grave because of what Christ did for us. Everyone will be resurrected, some to judgment and others to age-abiding life. Those who are resurrected to judgment will be judged in righteousness. God will teach the inhabitants of the world righteousness through his judgments. Those who are resurrected to reign with Christ will be prepared to be the agents of righteousness to judge the world.

      Jesus never promises to eliminate suffering in this life but he promises to give us the strength to endure it. Actually, true believes should expect suffering, persecution, and tribulations as the bible clearly says that all those who will live godly will suffer persecution. The work of Christ is complete that is why He said, “It is Accomplished”, as he hung on the cross before giving up his life, but the outcome has not come to reality as of yet for us. God isn’t done though. You have mistaken my belief in the state of the dead to be permanent which I do not believe or teach anything close to that. Salvation is a process and more it important, it is God’s process. People invent alternative salvation approaches just because it tickles their ears. God will save everyone in there appropriate time.

      Your understanding of heaven and hell are carnal man-inspired interpretations. The bible speaks about death, the grave, and resurrection. Heaven and hell are invented fairytales.

      Matthew 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art EXALTED UNTO HEAVEN, shalt be brought down to hell: [Do you really think that the whole city was literally exalted to “HEAVEN” to be in the presence of God in the spiritual realm only to be cast down to a literal hell to be eternally punished? Christ is talking about people who are alive and this verse clearly contradicts the Christian understanding of heaven and hell.

      Here is another contradiction;

      Revelation 5:3 And NO MAN IN HEAVEN, NOR IN EARTH, NEITHER UNDER THE EARTH, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. [Are there really men in heaven, the actual abode of God the Father?]

      John 3:13 And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. [How can men be in heaven if no man has ascended up to heaven?]

      Heaven is a spiritual realm; it is not a place or location in the clouds. Heaven is God’s kingdom and Jesus tells us that the kingdom of God is within you. (See Luke 17:20-21) I have written material on this subject on my blog and I welcome you to read it at your leisure.

      Also, the King James translation is probably one of the worst bible translations in existence. There are better translations out there but there is no such thing as a perfect bible translation. I think much can be learned from studying a variety of translations as well as the Hebrew and Greek which can be done for free on sites such as Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

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      1. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer some of my questions.

        Yes, you are correct. I did mistake your belief in death as being a permanent state. Sorry for the confusion.

        I’m beginning to understand what it is that you believe and why. I just have a few questions.

        I would like to know what you think happens to non-believers after the Resurrection. I’m talking about all who mocked and denied God. Any idolaters, murderers, rapists, satanists, etc. as well. What will God do with these people?

        1 Peter 3:18-20 – “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” Can you also please explain this verse to me? It is a confusing one if I am to look at it through your belief.

        John 14:2 – “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.” Can you tell me what this verse means to you? According to your beliefs, I’m confused by this one as well.

        Thanks in advance.


      2. Hi Leena, thanks for your response. I know that it is difficult to understand how God deals with all the evil in this world. It’s easy for people to judge murderers or rapists right? Let’s look at what Paul says in Romans 2:1-3
        Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
        Who is this “O man”? Who is it that judges? This O man is the old carnal man, “Adam” if you will, the man born in sin. This “O man” is all of us, every single human being because we all have this carnal man of sin inside of us. Notice what Paul says, you who judges condemns yourself because “you do the same things”… Wait, what, you say? I’ve never murdered anyone or raped anyone right…
        Continuing in verse 2, God judges according to truth against those who “COMMIT” such things, right? So you think because you don’t literally commit such acts that this qualifies you to judge others??? Verse 3, you who judge others (who commit such acts), you do the same things and how shall you escape the judgment of God?
        You must understand something when it comes to the human capacity for evil. We all are murderers and rapists;
        Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that EVERY imagination of the thoughts of his heart was ONLY EVIL CONTINUALLY.
        Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are ACCUSTOMED TO DO EVIL.
        Romans 1:24 Wherefore GOD ALSO GAVE THEM UP to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
        Romans 1:26 For this cause GOD GAVE THEM UP unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
        Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND, to do those things which are not convenient;
        Romans 3:23 For ALL HAVE SINNED, and come short of the glory of God;
        Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them ALL IN UNBELIEF, that he might have mercy upon all.
        All of these scriptures speak of all humanity. Here is another truth that I don’t believe is ever preached in the Christian church; God is responsible for the creation of evil;
        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the Lord do all these things.
        God also limits and controls evil;
        Jeremiah 18:11 Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I FRAME EVIL against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.
        God creates vessels of honor and vessels of dishonor;
        Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
        I don’t pretend to understand the full work of God. God’s ways are very mysterious to me but as the clay, who am I to question the potter? In Romans 9:18, God says that He will have “mercy” on who he will and He “hardens” who he will.
        Always remember this truth;
        Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
        We cannot take credit for God’s mercy in our lives. If you haven’t literally murdered or raped anyone, thank God that he chose to have mercy on you and to not make you a vessel of dishonor. If it wasn’t for God, we would all be literal and ACTUAL murderers, rapists, God haters, immoral, liars, idolaters, etc. Remember the teachings of Christ? Hating is the same as murder and lusting is the same as adultery.
        So don’t judge or look at the evil of others as if you are any better because you and I both do the same things “O man”. I will admit that this is a hard truth to accept and understand.
        Now with all that said, one of the grandest mysterious of God is how exactly will he punish unbelievers and unrepentant sinners? Will he do it with literal fire to burn flesh for the purposes of torture? I don’t believe so but the truth is, I don’t know for sure because I’m not God but I know that if all is of God and because of God, then God doesn’t need to torture people to purge us of sin and to teach us righteousness. God will set things right with humanity. Read my post on the Lake of Fire: This is a Symbol.

        Now, in regards to 1 Peter 3:18-20, I understand how these verses are confusing especially if it is interpreted literally. These scriptures are used to justify the carnal belief that Jesus literally went to hell to preach to the souls in hell (hades). This belief is an absolute contradiction concerning the death of Christ.
        Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the DEAD;) You see, Jesus was raised from the dead. You have to be dead first to be raised from the dead. This idea that Jesus preached to people in hell contradicts the Christian belief in hell that the damned are sentenced to hell forever with no hope. What purpose would Jesus have to literally preach to damned souls? This is nothing but silly carnal interpretations of men that do nothing but contradict scripture over and over again.
        Let’s pay attention to what the scripture says; notice that the word “hell” is nowhere in these 3 scriptures. It says “prison” but this is not talking about a literal prison. Jesus didn’t literally preach to anyone because he was dead. This is figurative language. Actually the word “preach” is not a good translation in my opinion because when we think of preaching, we think of a preacher standing in a pulpit preaching to a congregation. The Greek word that is translated as “preached” in 1 Peter 3:19 is “kēryssō” and it means to publish or to proclaim with authority such as a herald.
        The meaning of this passage is referring to all of the disobedient people who died before the resurrection of Christ. They were symbolically locked in the “prison” of God’s judgment because Christ had not atonement for their sins until he died on the cross and was resurrected. This is the power of the resurrection of Christ because now, the work of salvation that is in Christ is “proclaimed” or [figuratively preached] to those who died in the past in disobedience.

        Now, for John 14:2, this again is figurative language. There are no literal houses in a literal heaven. People really think heaven is full of real mansions, with streets of gold, pearly gates, and babies flying around playing harps. This is all man’s ideas of what heaven is like. Heaven is a spiritual realm. It is not physical and houses and mansions are physical things. The word “mansion” is a terrible translation for the Greek word “monē”. This word means “abode” and it is actually translated as such in John 14:23;
        Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our ABODE (Greek – monē) with him. [It wouldn’t make much sense if Christ said, “we will come unto him, and make our MANSION with him” now would it?
        So if John 14:2 was translated better, it would read like this;
        In my Father’s house are many abodes: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
        This is referring to a dwelling, but not a physical dwelling.
        John 14:1 starts off with Jesus saying, “Let not your heart be troubled”. Why did Jesus say this? Something was troubling his disciples but the scriptures do not tell us exactly what was troubling them. We can speculate all day but if I had to guess, I would say that the disciples were starting to fear the possibility of DEATH as the pressure mounted from the Pharisees and religious leaders to kill Christ. I’m sure that they knew that some scary stuff was brewing so Christ tells them, “Let not your heart be troubled”.
        This is what Christ is talking about in John 14:2;
        2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
        Christ is referring to spiritual bodies which will be our abode or dwelling with God but Christ has to die and be resurrected first because we follow after his order. This is why he tells them, “I go to prepare a place for you”. He’s talking about going to the cross. Let’s read John 14:3;
        And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
        So where does Christ go? He goes to the cross to die for us. God resurrects him and Christ will come again (second coming of Christ) to receive those that are his at his coming.
        Hope this helps…

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  9. Do you have a testimony of your relationship with God after you stop believing in hell. I mean I’ve believed in it for a while but only now is it bugging me. I dont want to fear hell more than I love God ( which most christians probably are). I feel like the belief of hell defeats the purpose of a relationship of God if you’re paranoid about hell. So God will work out my salvation if I have faith? How was it for you?


    1. I’m responding to share my experience as well (hopefully it provides you comfort). I’m only 19 years old, been studying the Word of God for several months on and off (after coming across his website, I’ve been studying even more). Fortunately, I’m one of the few who cannot possibly believe in all these fables and fairytales of modern Christian belief, though I still had doubts on what’s the truth and what’s not. When reading the Bible, I felt like something was off, and I never understood why I was getting something different from the scriptures than what I was taught. I thought it was only because I was leaning on my own understanding. However, over time, I started realizing more and more that the Word of God speaks for and interprets itself, and I also started searching externally for insight during my studies. Sure enough, it only confirmed the lies I’ve been taught. [This one was particularly on the word “fornication” (KJV), how the Greek word never included “sex before marriage” (it’s a lot to explain). So I took into account historical societies AND God’s Word, only confirming the twisted belief of “sex before marriage” being a sin. You cannot find a scripture anywhere saying this, and most people point to 1 Corinthians 7, but they only take it for face value and their misleading own understanding. My goal was only to correct that twisted use of the scriptures, not “change the whole game,” as I’ve been wrongly accused of attempting.] Because of this, and presenting this to a minister of the Church of Christ around other members, I was shunned and “my stance” was rejected despite providing scriptures and historical evidence that the modern Christian church has lies built on the foundation of the Christ. None of what I was saying came from me, only the Bible. So it was like, “you’re basically telling God He is a liar, because I’m only telling you what His word says.” One member even told me she was “worried” about my studies, how I’m not interpreting the scriptures correctly, and even telling me (and most likely others) I am being misled (this is the same who accused me of trying to change “the game.” Ironically, I’ve actually been studying the Word of God and she never has herself. A lot of people will try to tell you you’re wrong even though you’ve read it in the Bible yourself, and even if you try to provide scriptures and they STILL don’t listen, just let them continue being ignorant (this is biblical). Those who won’t accept the truth will never and can never see the truth. Unfortunately, people will believe what they want to believe.

      I don’t care how foolish I look to them, because I know that the Word of God is truth. After that encounter was a series of a few life changes, even a couple of mishaps (the path isn’t smooth and sinless), but I still kept my faith in God and knows He will never lie or mislead me when it comes to searching for the truth. I haven’t been to church since October, I believe, and now I don’t think I can ever go to any church let alone the Church of Christ (which is supposed be the “the one and true church Jesus talked about”) so long as they continue to teach lies that the Word of God never states.

      Now when you say you’ve always believed in hell, so did I. Even then, though, my love for God has always overpowered my fear of hell. That is the main thing. Perfect love casts out fear, right? My love for God wasn’t perfect then, but I can say it is now, because after studying the Word of God and God leading me to this website, he has revealed to me the truth. Now I have NOTHING to fear. (What can I possibly fear now knowing that the fable of hell is false?) God is merciful, loving, all-powerful, and all-knowing. I don’t believe for a second that God will mislead those who truly want to know Him and understand the Word of God. That’s the problem with the vast, overwhelming majority of people who read the Bible. Their sole motive is to gain answers for themselves for the wrong reasons and/or use it as a tool to wreck others, but they will NEVER learn the truth and God will never reveal it to them if they’re not trying to know Him. I know the Word of God is a sword, but even that idea has been twisted to think that you can use scriptures to destroy and humiliate others and religions. We’re supposed to be spreading the truth, the gospel, and showing the love that God has, but people’s hearts are not turned towards Him.

      My relationship with God only grows stronger the more I study, and this will be a lifelong journey. As long as you continue seeking God and the truth without doubt, and letting that being your sole motive, God will reveal spiritual things to you little by little. Don’t expect to have some miraculous moment in your life when you’re speaking in tongues like those in Acts, though. LOL


    2. Most Christians are delusional about hell. They don’t think about how ridiculously evil it is since they believe that they aren’t going there. This is why it is so easy for Christians to judge other peoples sins while completely ignoring their own sin. I believed in hell many years ago but I always had a problem with the concept of eternal torture. I didn’t know what to believe and I eventually left the church. As I struggled with dealing with my own sin, I found myself living in terror thinking that I would die and go to hell. I would actually have dreams about dying and my mind would create what it thought going to hell would look like. The fear that I lived in was unbearable and I knew that the love of Christ didn’t produce this kind of bondage. So over the years, I began to study the scriptures and God showed me how to dig beneath the surface by cross referencing Hebrew and Greek words.

      Let me give you an example on how to do this; the Greek word “krisis” is translated as the word judgment 41 times in the King James but they also decided to translate this word as damnation 3 times. So the question is why? Why did the King James translators decide to make the Greek word “krisis” mean damnation in 3 specific scriptures? Are these two words synonyms? Judgment and damnation do not even come close to having the same meaning. Let me show you the a verse that the King James translators translated “krisis” as damnation instead of judgment;

      Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? [Keep in mind that Jesus is talking about religious people which would translate to modern day church attending Christians.]

      You see, the doctrine of hell is not about judgment, its about punishment and this is what is implied by the use of the word damnation instead of judgment. But everybody knows that punishment comes after judgment. If hell is a real place, then it means that God punishes before he judges. Does this sound like the way a loving righteous God works? The word hell in this verse is translated from the Greek word “geenna”. Literal “geenna or gehenna” was an ancient garbage dump in Jerusalem where they dumped garbage and the bodies of dead animals and humans to be burned. So “geenna” is a symbol for how God will judge the sinful deeds of humanity by destroying the works of the flesh. If this verse was accurately translated, Jesus would say, how can ye escape the JUDGMENT of hell (Greek – geenna). Do you see now how this changes the whole meaning of the verse? Hell (geenna) is not about punishment, its about judgment. But God doesn’t judge like Adolf Hitler.

      Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for WHEN THY JUDGMENTS are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

      You see, God judges to teach righteousness but the King James translators have hid the truth and covered it up with this damnable doctrine of eternal torture and the Christian church has accepted this doctrine of demons with open arms.

      I continued to study and study and God continued to reveal the truth of His word to me. Once I understood the full plan of God saving work for humanity, I was freed from the strongholds of evil Christian doctrines such as hell. So now, my relationship with God is spiritual. I do not bind myself to any outward religious practices that I learned in the church. I do not attend church and I’m convinced that I will never return unless I’m asked to share the real gospel of Christ. But I know Christians don’t want to hear the real gospel because they prefer their own perverted version. That fact that you are here let’s me know that God is working in you to know and learn the truth of His word. I freely admit that I do not have all the answers but God will use me as He wants to. It is impossible to believe in hell and have a relationship with God. Christians are in a state of delusion. They have a counterfeit relationship with God that is based on their own work and effort. Trust me when I say that they already have their reward. God will work out your salvation, my salvation, and the salvation of the world and here is why;

      Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

      Now, Christians use this verse to justify the belief that a person must choose Christ by accepting his free gift of salvation. They neglect to read the next verse;

      Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

      We cannot do anything without God first drawing us, working in us, teaching us, and most important, loving us. God will work it out. He doesn’t always do it in out timing but He will do it.

      I think it would be very helpful for you to study the work of L. Ray Smith at

      God be with you…


  10. I would love to continue speaking with you on spiritual matters because I have many questions based on my studies, but I feel like I would be plaguing this section of your website. However, I will present these subjects:

    1) PARADISE – Members of the Church of Christ whom I have known believe that when people die, those who are saved (aka strictly members of the Church of Christ) will go straight to Paradise and the rest will go to the other part of Hades, which is the Torment. Now I know for a fact that is false, because they base their doctrine on this scripture:
    Luke 23:43 – ” And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” (KJV)

    Now, I do not know where they get the idea of Torment from (I am still searching for this), but I know that their argument is Jesus told the evil-doer on the cross that he will be with Him in paradise (mind you, He says “today,” not until judgment. There is no other scripture that mentions going to Paradise after death. Now, considering the word Paradise, the Greek word is παράδεισος (paradisos), and it only appears three times in the scriptures. The other two are mentioned based on an apostle’s account in 2 Cor. 12:4 and Rev. 2:7.
    2 Cor. 12:4 – “How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.” (KJV)
    Rev. 2:7 – “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.” (KJV)

    The definitions of παράδεισος (paradisos) are:
    III. the part of Hades which was thought by the later Jews to be the abode of the souls of pious until the resurrection: but some understand this to be a heavenly paradise
    IV. the upper regions of the heavens. According to the early church Fathers, the paradise in which our first parents dwelt before the fall still exists, neither on the earth or in the heavens, but above and beyond the world

    Now I have reason to believe that their idea is based on III, an older Jewish argument. But this is still false, because no other scripture supports this claim. Taking into account the other two scriptures aforementioned, their claim wouldn’t make sense. By their logic, the tree of life is in paradise with a bunch of dead people roaming about, and the apostle also died and went to paradise, then resurrected, which, again, doesn’t make any sense. I have come to the conclusion that the paradise Christ spoke of is not Hades, but is spiritual and figurative for what, I’m still not sure of. But after some searching, I have reason to believe that the tree of life in the midst of the paradise of God represents the spiritual state of being blessed (happiness) and knowing the perfect truth (perhaps after knowing Jesus, because He is the way, the truth, and the life), and the paradise mentioned is the spiritual realm not of God’s abode, but a place of God like that of the Garden of Eden. Additionally, considering Rev. 22:14 which reads, “Happy are those doing His commands that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of the life, and by the gates they may enter into the city;” (YLT), the holy city spoken of is spiritual as well, and not a physical place. But to keep in mind, this city has a gate, and we know that Jesus mentioned “strait is the gate” and “narrow is the path.” And we also know that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life… This leads to my second subject…

    2) NEW JERUSALEM – Now this will definitely stir up some things considering the book of Revelation. I haven’t studied this book in whole, but I have reason to believe that most has already happened. New Jerusalem is mentioned in these two scriptures:
    Rev. 3:12 – “He who is overcoming–I will make him a pillar in the sanctuary of my God, and without he may not go any more, and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, that doth come down out of the heaven from my God–also my new name.”
    Rev. 21:2 – “and I, John, saw the holy city–new Jerusalem–coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.” Reading further on, we see v. 3 which says, “and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, `Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them — their God,” and this refers to what was written in 2 Cor. 6:16 about us being “the temple of the living God,” as mentioned in Ex. 29:45, Lev. 26:11+12, Ez. 37:26+27 & 43:7, Zech. 8:8, and Jer. 31:33 & 32:38.

    In reference to Rev. 3:12 is Heb. 12:22, and for Rev. 21:2 are Is. 52:1 and Gal. 4:26. These scriptures connect with others like that of a web, thus being complex. Anyway, the three scriptures I mentioned are as follows:
    Heb. 12:22 – “But, ye came to Mount Zion, and to a city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of messengers,”
    Is. 52:1 – “Awake, awake, put on thy strength, O Zion, Put on the garments of thy beauty, Jerusalem — the Holy City; For enter no more into thee again, Do the uncircumcised and unclean (this is spiritual, not literal).” Further on reads the characteristics of the holy city.
    Gal. 4:26 – “and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,” Reading past Galatians 4:26 to the end at v. 31, apparently, we are the free-woman’s (“then, brethren, we are not a maid-servant’s children, but the free-woman’s”). Additionally, v. 26 makes a reference to Is. 2:2, which reads:

    “And it hath come to pass, In the latter end of the days, Established is the mount of Jehovah’s house, Above the top of the mounts, And it hath been lifted up above the heights, And flowed unto it have all the nations.”

    Now with these scriptures in mind, I have taken note of a few things mentioned: city, tabernacle, heaven/ly, Jerusalem. The Greek words & their definitions are:
    πόλις (polis, city) – “the heavenly Jerusalem; the abode of the blessed in heaven, of the visible capital in the heavenly kingdom, to come down to earth after the renovation of the world by fire”
    σκηνή (skay-nay, tabernacle) – “of that well known movable temple of God after the pattern of which the temple at Jerusalem was built”
    οὐρανός (ouranos, heaven/ly) – “the region above the sidereal heavens, the seat of order of things eternal and consummately perfect where God dwells and other heavenly beings”
    Ἰερουσαλήμ (Jerusalem) – ~~”Jerusalem that is above”, that is existing in heaven, according to the pattern of which the earthly Jerusalem was supposed to be built;
    ~~metaph. “the City of God founded by Christ”, now wearing the form of the church, but after Christ’s return to put on the form of the perfected Messianic kingdom
    ~~”the heavenly Jerusalem”, that is the heavenly abode of God, Christ, the angels, saints of the Old and New Testament periods and those Christians that are alive at Christ’s return
    ~~”the New Jerusalem”, a splendid visible city to be let down from heaven after the renovation of the world, the future abode of the blessed

    There must be some errors with these definitions, because we see that city mentions New Jerusalem as being visible, and there are various Jerusalems under the “Jerusalem that is above,” but when considering the scriptures, the heavenly Jerusalem = the new Jerusalem = Jerusalem that is above.” Interestingly enough, the New Jerusalem comes after the fire (most likely the purifying fire) mentioned under the city’s definition, and how it is compared to being a bride, and it comes down from heaven (you’ve wrote about this, so there’s really nothing to explain here). The tabernacle mentioned is most likely the Word, who came in the flesh and dwelt among us, but He also left us the Comforter (Holy Spirit) to dwell within us. These scriptures cannot possibly mean that the new Jerusalem is a literal, physical place that we’re still waiting for. Rather, the new Jerusalem, the holy city, represents the new covenant that we are under by the grace of God, and those who find the truth (Christ and more), had made their way (through Christ) to the tree of life (most likely Christ & truth within us), which is in the midst of the paradise of God (the spiritual state of the kingdom of God/heaven that is within us), thus fully attaining that knowledge of truth and being blessed, rejoicing, and at peace knowing it. That is why Christ only said “today” to the evil-doer on the cross, for He knew that because of his repentance and seeing Christ as He truly is, he has reached the paradise of God that day, but it was also his last. Moreover, the idea of “everlasting” life is really just age-abiding, correct? This must coincide with the tree of life. It’s really so much to explain, but I hope you’re at least getting the gist of what I’m saying. However, if I’m wrong, please let me know.


    1. Hello De’Zsa, I’d be happy to continue communicating with you in regards to spiritual matters. I made this section specifically for people like you to leave comments so that is not a problem. It would be easier for me to focus on one topic at a time but by all means please share your thoughts and questions. I’m going to post the answers to your questions for Paradise & Torments and the New Jerusalem separately so that the responses won’t be so long.

      So, you have asked me about the teachings of hades being “compartmentalized” in two distinct sections with the top section called “Paradise” and the bottom section called “Torments”. I am familiar with this Christian teaching and it is all unscriptural nonsense. This belief is based on horrible scripture interpretation. You are correct in quoting Luke 23:43 as this is the verse that Christians use to justify the belief that “Paradise” is an actual location in hades.

      And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

      To suggest that a person literally goes to a place after death called paradise or torments is a blatant contradiction of scripture. The first truth is that we know that Jesus didn’t go to this “paradise” but rather to the grave after he died.

      Let’s look at Ecclesiastes 9:10;

      Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for THERE IS NO WORK, nor DEVICE, nor KNOWLEDGE, nor WISDOM, IN THE GRAVE (Hebrew – sheol), whither thou goest. (Note: hades is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew sheol which means the grave.)

      It would be impossible for this “paradise” to be a literal place to experience anything without obviously contradicting Ecclesiastes 9:10. The fact remains that Jesus DIED, the thief on the cross DIED, and when you die, it is the opposite of being alive. If Jesus didn’t really die, then we don’t have a Savior and our sins aren’t forgiven. People are not conscious of anything again until being resurrected. My dad died in 2008 and based on Christian theology, he would be in “torments” or “hell” right now and for the past 8 years. My dad suffered much as his health faded during the latter years of his life and for anyone to even suggest that God would then send my dad to a place to literally suffer more is absolutely disgusting. My dad is in the grave where he has no more work, device, knowledge, or wisdom. This is elementary stuff but there are doctorate level theologians that believe in these evil pagan mythological concepts of life after death.

      The word paradise in Luke 23:43 has nothing to do with the modern understanding of this word. The Greek word for paradise is “paradeisos” and it actually comes from Persian origin. It literally means an “enclosed garden”. The Hebrew variant of this word is pardec and this word is used in the Old Testament 3 times. Let me quote a verse that uses it;

      Ecclesiastes 2:5 I made me GARDENS AND ORCHARDS, and I planted trees in them of all kind of fruits:

      Here is an interesting connection;

      Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that OVERCOMETH will I give to eat of the TREE OF LIFE, which is in THE MIDST OF THE PARADISE OF GOD. (Garden of God???) Where else have when seen trees in a garden of God???

      Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; THE TREE OF LIFE ALSO IN THE MIDST OF THE GARDEN, AND THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.

      So we see that in God’s paradise or GARDEN, there existed the tree of life AND the tree of knowledge of good and evil. We have already taken part in the tree of knowledge of good and evil in this life, this sinful wicked age. In the next age after the resurrection, Jesus Christ (who is the tree of life) along with those who OVERCOME (Look back at Revelations 2:7) will save the world. (Those who overcome are God’s elect).

      Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIOURS shall come up on mount Zion TO JUDGE the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord’s. (Notice that saviours is plural) How does God judge?

      Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for WHEN THY JUDGMENTS ARE IN THE EARTH, THE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

      God judges to teach righteousness to the world not to torture the world.

      This is what God’s garden (paradise) is, the establishment of the government of God with Christ as King, the saints (God’s elect) as co-heirs to the kingdom, and the rest of the world as children of the Most High.

      So why did Jesus say to the thief on the cross that he would be in paradise with him today? The problem here is comma placement. There were NO commas in the original Greek writings so bible translators had to choose where to place commas to satisfy modern rules of sentence syntax. Let me show you what Luke 23:43 looks like in a more accurate translation in the Concordant Literal New Testament;

      And Jesus said to him, “Verily, to you am I saying TODAY, with Me shall you be in paradise.”

      King James;

      And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, TODAY shalt thou be with me in paradise.

      See how comma placement can change the interpretation? So we see that Jesus is not telling him what would happen on that specific day but rather that he was making a proclamation to him on that particular day. Regardless of the comma placement issue, the real truth is to know with confidence that NO scripture can contradict another scripture. So comma or no comma, there is no life after death before the resurrection because we know based on scripture that when people die, they go to the grave where they experience absolutely NOTHING.

      Now, the scripture used to justify the section of “Torments” as a part of hades is in Luke 16:23; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENTS, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

      This is one of the most outlandish and absurd interpretations of scripture I’ve ever heard. They do not even realize that this passage is a part of a parable and it is not meant to be interpreted literally. Christians believe that “Abraham’s bosom” as it is stated in Luke 16:22, is the same “Paradise” that they go to after death. Keep in mind that they deny that this is even a parable at all but they admit that the phrase “Abraham’s bosom” is symbolic because it would be absurd to believe that Abraham’s bosom is a literal place that people go to. Well it’s equally absurd to think that people go anywhere after death. All of Luke 16:19-31 is a parable and all of it is symbolic. I’ve written and entire paper explaining the meaning of this parable.


    2. New Jerusalem is a “symbolic phrase” that represents God’s elect, the chosen few, those who overcome. The bible uses so many allegories and metaphors in Revelation that it can be hard to understand the true meaning of many of these words. The book of Revelation is almost entirely symbolic. Old Jerusalem or Jerusalem that is now represents God’s original chosen – Israel (Jews) which is spoken of in Galatians;

      Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to JERUSALEM WHICH NOW IS, AND IS IN BONDAGE WITH HER CHILDREN.

      So the ancient Israelite’s (God’s chosen) represent this Jerusalem and her children are all of these remnants of Judaism such as Christianity and Catholicism. But why are they in bondage?

      Jerusalem that is in bondage with her children is called “The Great Whore”, by the Apostle John in Revelations 17 but what does all this mean?

      Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

      This of course is not talking about a real woman. This is referring to the false church system of religion in the whole world. She looks really attractive with her nice clothes and jewelry. This is the deception of the false church system, she looks good on the outside but she has a cup full of abominations (disgusting things).

      The “church” of Christ is referred to as the bride of Christ and brides are woman, but this false church (woman) is a filthy adulterous whore. Why?

      Revelation 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

      Remember that I said that the whole book of Revelation is mostly symbolic. These aren’t literal kings (men). These kings have committed “fornication” with the false church woman. In a real marriage, the bride only has sex (which is a symbol of intimacy) which her husband. The church (woman) is the bride and Christ is the bridegroom but the false church woman that exists in this world has committed adultery with the kings of the earth. These “kings of the earth” represent the laws, doctrines, traditions, and every man-made ideology that people follow that goes against the words of Christ. So this includes the doctrine of hell and eternal punishment, eternal destruction, the immortality of the soul, free will, choosing Christ for salvation, the Trinity, saving soul campaigns, tithing, prosperity preaching, and a boat load of others. When we believe in something we trust in it and it becomes a “king” in our lives. What drives us more than our belief systems? This is why Revelation 17:2 says the inhabitants of the earth are drunk with the wine of her fornication. This represents the billions of people who have been deceived because they believe in all of these silly carnal man-made doctrines.

      Listen to what Christ commands true believers to do;

      Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS OF HER SINS, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES.

      In Hebrews 12:22, we see that there is another Jerusalem from heaven.

      But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM, and to an innumerable company of angels,

      This is not talking about a literal city. This is referring to people, God’s elect. You should be able to understand Revelation 21:2 now;

      And I John saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, coming down from God out of heaven, PREPARED AS A BRIDE ADORNED FOR HER HUSBAND.

      This is talking about people; the true church (woman – bride) of Christ that has overcome the kings of the earth.

      I hope you were able to follow this. Sorry it took a while but I wanted make sure I covered all of your questions.
      God be with you…


      1. Thank you so much for the clarification and insight, but I do have more questions. If some of my questions seem airy, don’t judge too much. I was going through thought processes and prayer as I was typing this on my phone. Some questions I asked were answered throughout, but I would still love another believer’s insight on all we could mind the same thing (Rom. 15:5, Philippians 2:2).

        “In the next age…those who OVERCOME…will save the world. (Those who overcome are God’s elect).”
        I know I must continue reading on this, but I’m still having a hard time understanding God’s elect. Who is considered God’s elect? Us, or the apostles who wrote the NT, or a mixture? Because Paul addressed those in Colossians 3:12 saying, “(YLT) Put on, therefore, as choice ones of God…” Also, just God’s elect have their names written in God’s book of life, save those who “(YLT) not been written upon the scroll of the life from the foundation of the world” Rev. 17:8? And going back to Rev. 13:8, “(YLT) bow before it shall all who are dwelling upon the land, whose names have not been written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world;” Is Rev. 13:8 talking about everyone who’s walked this earth??? Or just those during that time? I can’t believe my merciful God would mean this as it says. There must be more to it.

        “So the ancient Israelite’s (God’s chosen) represent this Jerusalem and her children are all of these remnants of Judaism such as Christianity and Catholicism.”
        Now I understand Judaism and Catholicism, but I don’t believe Christianity is part of this because God specifically promised to name his people Christians, correct? From Rev. 2:17, which says:

        “(YLT) He who is having an ear–let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming, I will give to him to eat from the hidden manna, and will give to him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, that no one knew except him who is receiving [it].”

        in Isaiah 56:5:

        “(YLT) I have given to them in My house, And within My walls a station and a name, Better than sons and than daughters, A name age-during I give to him That is not cut off.”

        And Isaiah 65:15:

        “(YLT) And ye have left your name For an oath for My chosen ones, And the Lord Jehovah hath put thee to death, And to His servants He giveth another name.”

        Which Acts 11:26 reads:

        “(YLT) and having found him, he brought him to Antioch, and it came to pass that they a whole year did assemble together in the assembly, and taught a great multitude, the disciples also were divinely called first in Antioch Christians.”

        It doesn’t make sense to me why God would name His chosen people Christians, which shall not be cut off, yet consider them to be fornicators based off of Rev. 17:4. ###And what of the church Christ said He will build in Matt. 16:18?

        “(YLT) `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;”

        Certain the assemblies are called out in Revelation, but would they be considered part of Christ’s, though being corrupt (and that’s why they are chastened)? Moreover, Christ said “the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.” So His assembly will not see death/the grave? But everyone dies, right?

        “So this includes…free will, choosing Christ for salvation, the Trinity, saving soul campaigns, tithing…”

        Now these few have raised eyebrows I didn’t even know I had. The only questionable subject here is free will, and the claim and what I’ve been taught is that we were given choice that controlled the course of events. But I can see how this is warped because God clearly planned all of this before the foundation of the world, correct?

        Now “choosing Christ for salvation”? Christ does save us and we must follow His example, repent, and be baptized. How is this a false teaching? And the Trinity, although I do understand the name use, but the Bible also mentions this in 1 John 5:7, 8:

        “(YLT) 7 because three are who are testifying [in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these–the three–are one; 8 and three are who are testifying in the earth], the Spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are into the one.”

        But… I do see the brackets now. And the Concordant Literal New Testament only mentions the spirit, the water, and the blood…What happened with this verse? (I Googled this, and found: This must be what you’re referring to? This has definitely made me skeptical…)

        Now what exactly is wrong with saving souls campaigns? Aren’t we supposed to do God’s will and preach the gospel of Christ? Now, I don’t know too much about saving souls campaign specifically, so I do ask that you enlighten me because I don’t know what’s unscriptural about spreading the truth and getting people baptized. Also, didn’t Christ instruct us to tithe?

        I truly enjoy speaking with you about this, and I thank you for answering my questions and others. I’m following you on what you’re saying, but it’s still a lot to gather from. We believers must stop attending these churches that pervert the scriptures, because none are Christ’s, and He called us out from them. Not even the Church of Christ? The church Christ is married to is New Jerusalem, a spiritual church, the one He said He will build… Which makes sense… Now, what of Hebrews 10:25?

        “(YLT) not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as a custom of certain [is], but exhorting, and so much the more as ye see the day coming nigh.”

        Because doing so is a sin, right? How will we go about this if it is so few who know the truth and refuse to accept it? Are we, for example, part of God’s elect? And what of the churches the apostles wrote to?


      2. God’s elect is referring to all post resurrection believers who trust God through faith in Jesus Christ. God’s elect must overcome the world and all of the fiery trials that one must go through in life. Those who overcome are the ones that are promised “age abiding” life which is the 1,000 year reign with Christ. Remember that I told you that the book of Revelation is almost entirely symbolic. Revelations 13:8 is not talking about people literally dwelling on a literal earth. I explain the spiritual symbols of heaven, earth, and the sea in my post about the Kingdom of Heaven and the Abode of God. Please read it again because I’m sure it will help your understanding.

        The verses you quoted are not referring to modern day Christians. Revelation 2:17 speaks about a new name that nobody knows except the one who is receiving it. Everybody knows the name of Christians. Modern day Christians do not follow Christ. They follow a counterfeit Christ, a Christ that they do not believe can and will save the whole world, a Christ that they believe failed at atoning for the sins of the world, and a Christ that they must choose and accept. This is not what the scriptures teach. Modern day Christians are not overcoming as they are still a part of the “Great Whore” that Christ commands us to come out of.
        Isaiah 56:5 speaks about a name that will not be cut off for the age. That’s what age-during means. We already know that the age spoken of in this verse has ended because God has already demonstrated that He can call a people, give them a name, and cast them away. Did God not choose the ISRAELITE’S in the original covenant? Have they not been cut off?

        Romans 11:15 For if the CASTING AWAY OF THEM be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? [This is referring to the Israelites but notice why God does this… for the reconciling of the world.

        Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that BLINDNESS IN PART IS HAPPENED TO ISRAEL, UNTIL THE FULNESS OF THE GENTILES BE COME IN. [This is how God is reconciling the world, Jews first, then the Gentiles.]

        The name “Christian” is a term created by men not God. Acts 11:26 is just saying that the disciples in Antioch were called “Christians” for the first time. Before that time, they were just called disciples. I don’t have a clue why Young’s Literal Translation added the word “divinely” to this scripture. I’ve looked in over 20 other translations and not one of them describes the name “Christians” as being divine. There are two Greek words that are translated as “divine” in the New Testament and they are “theios” and “latreia” and neither of these words are in the Greek of Acts 11:26.

        Consider this; do you think Jesus Christ is the real name for the Messiah? Jesus Christ is an earthly name in an earthly language with earthly letters in an earthly alphabet. I do not believe that God and the host of celestial beings in the actual “abode of God” in the spiritual realm communicate throught the earthly language of English. This is why I believe that the “unspeakable words” that Paul heard in 2 Corinthians 12:4 were UNLAWFUL for a man to utter because Paul heard words spoken in a “spiritual language” that would be impossible for an earthly man to repeat or speak about.

        Furthermore, claiming to be a “Christian” does not make you God’s elect.
        Matthew 7:21-22 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
        Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
        What group of people calls Jesus Lord Lord? Christians
        What group of people prophesizes in the Lord’s name? Christians
        What group of people casts out devils? Christians
        What group of people is it that has done MANY WONDERFUL WORKS in the Lord’s name? Christians
        Yet in Matthew 7:23, Christ says this;
        And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
        Notice that Christ says, MANY will say to him and we already know that there will only be FEW that overcome.

        The “gates of hades” is a figurative statement and it is not referring to physical death in a literal grave. Let’s look at Matthew 16:18;
        And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.
        I think what is easily overlooked is the fact that Jesus said, “I will build MY CHURCH. Were there not any other churches in existence before Christ’s makes this statement? What about all of the Jewish synagogues? There was already THE Church of man’s religion but Christ is going to build his own church. Now what is a church? The word church is translated from the Greek word “ekklēsia” and it means a calling out. So the church that Christ is building is made up of people who have been called out. Called out of what? Called out of the church of man’s religion in this wicked world and the gates of hell (hades) will not prevail against it. So what does this mean? It does not mean that those who are called out will avoid physical death. The Greek word that is translated as prevail is “katischyō” and it means to overcome or to overpower. This word is only used in one other scripture so let’s look at it;
        Luke 23:23 And they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be crucified. And the voices of them and of the chief priests PREVAILED.
        So we see that the chief priest succeeded in having Christ crucified to DEATH. The phrase “the gates of hell (hades)” is a symbol for DEATH and death prevailed because Christ did die. But Christ defeated death in his resurrection. Now, Christ proclaims that although his church would face adversity, it will not be overcome or overpowered to the point of DEATH (destruction).

        The belief in “free will” is one of the most damnable heresies spoken of in 2 Peter 2:1. Free will is the belief that a man can make “uncaused choices”. This belief is absurd and even human science understands the rule of causality that everything has a cause. God cannot be sovereign if man has a free will. Man has a will but it is hardly free. All of our choices have a cause even if we don’t know what the cause is. Can you even think of one decision that you’ve made in your whole life that wasn’t caused by something? I ask people who believe in free will to explain why no human being in the history of humanity has ever been able to use their free will to choose to stop sinning. Most people believe in this godlike attribute because people want to be their own god and take responsibility for something that is God’s responsibility.

        The Christian church states that a person must “choose” to accept the salvation that is in Christ in order to be saved. If you don’t choose Christ in your earthly life before you die, then you will spend eternity being barbecued alive in some god forsaken hell. Here is an example of the filthiness of the whore’s fornication with the kings of the earth;

        John 6:44 Any man can come to me if he chooses, regardless of whether the Father which hath sent me draw him or not: and I will raise him up at the last day.
        Is this what it says??? NO, this is what the word of God says…
        John 6:44 NO MAN CAN COME TO ME, EXCEPT THE FATHER which hath sent me DRAW HIM: and I will raise him up at the last day.
        Let me show you how God draws men to Christ;
        Is Christ talking about being lifted up in praise in church buildings to draw people to Christ during alter call to be saved? No, let’s read John 12:33;
        This he said, signifying WHAT DEATH HE SHOULD DIE.
        How did Christ die? He was LIFTED UP on the cross and crucified to atone for the sins of the world. God will draw all men to Christ because of the cross but this doesn’t come to a reality in this life. God will draw all men to Christ when His judgments are in the earth. Choosing Christ for salvation is one of the most heretical and blasphemous doctrines of Christianity.

        So I see you realize that the word “trinity” is not even a word found in the bible. I also see that you have discovered that 1 John 5:7-8 is known to be one of the most spurious verses in the whole bible. The doctrine of the trinity is baseless and a person gains nothing by believing in it. To suggest that Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are 3 distinct persons that are coequal is not only unscriptural, it is ANTI-scriptural. God is not a person, the bible tells us that God is Spirit. Consider this;
        John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I. [Is there any verse in the bible that says that Christ is equal to his Father?]

        The following verses show that Jesus has a God and a Father. Nowhere do we ever see that God the Father has a God. How can they be distinct co-equal deities?
        2 Corinthians 11:31 THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
        Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
        Ephesians 1:17 That THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
        Colossians 1:3 We give thanks to GOD AND THE FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, praying always for you,
        1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

        This is several accounts of scripture showing us over and over again that God is the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Jesus has a God and Father but God the Father doesn’t have a God. The doctrine of the trinity is a bunch of unscriptural nonsense.

        It needs to be said that the gospel that is being preached in the world today is not the gospel of Christ. It is a counterfeit gospel and there is very little truth in it. Preaching the gospel has nothing to do with saving souls. When I share these truths that God has revealed to me, not one time do I ever think about someone’s salvation. When I say saving soul campaigns, I’m referring to the process by which people get saved in the Christian church. If people are really being saved by the millions, why does the bible only refer to only a few being saved or only a few going the narrow way? Consider this;
        Luke 18:7-8 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
        In verse 8, it says, “Nevertheless [when], this word “when” is translated from the Greek word “ara” and it is an interrogative participle that denotes a presumed negative answer. So when Christ asks, shall he find faith on the earth? He is presuming a negative answer so Christ knows that there will be very little faith on the earth when he returns.
        So what shall we say about the saving souls or winning souls for Jesus campaigns if Jesus reveals to us that he will find very little faith on earth when he returns? What do you think? There is nothing wrong about spreading truth but what is truth? Is there anything about the Christian church that speaks truth to you in light of all these lies about the Christian church that I’ve exposed? Tell me what you think because I know this is not easy stuff to swallow and this goes against many of the doctrines and traditions of men.

        Requiring people to pay 10% of their income to a Christian church is not only unscriptural, it is stealing. I’ve actually heard of people having their utilities cut off for the fear of missing God’s blessings if they didn’t tithe. There is a video on YouTube about Creflo Dollar and he says with conviction that people who don’t pay tithes should be lined and basically executed with machine guns. This guy has his own personal jet, a mansion, luxury cars, fancy suits, etc. He is an example of all of the TBN preachers proclaiming their counterfeit gospel only to fill their pockets.

        2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

        How nice of the King James translators to translate the Greek word kapēleuō as “corrupt” in this verse. This word is defined as the peddling of money for sordid gain. So Paul tells us that we are not the MANY who peddle the word of God for sordid gain. Here are some synonyms for the word sordid – sleazy, dirty, unsavory, cheap, debased, degenerate, dishonorable, disreputable, discreditable, contemptible, shameful, and abhorrent. There is not one scripture that Christ says we should pay tithes nor was this a command from the New Testament Apostles. Paying tithes was a part of the old covenant of the Levites and they tithed with farm products not money. To learn more about the lie of Christian tithing, read this article;

        Your last question concerning the fellowship of believers is one that I find myself frustrated with at times. I have no face to face fellowship with other believers who have been called out of the Christian church and this includes my own wife. I mostly fellowship with believers I’ve connected with online. It is really difficult for me but if things weren’t difficult then what need would there be to overcome? All Christian denominations are pretty much the same when it comes to matters of doctrine and most of the differences are non-essentials truths. The early church that was started by the apostles has nearly being destroyed by the gates of hades but remember what Christ said, the gates of hades will not prevail. We must overcome…

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    1. A soul is a human being. Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the DUST OF THE GROUND, and breathed into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE; and MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.

      So a man or human consists of the body (the dust of the ground) and the breath of life (spirit). Man only becomes a living soul when these two are combined. When a person dies, the body returns back to the earth and the spirit (breath of life) returns back to God.

      Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

      The spirit comes from God and this is what gives us our emotions and personality. This is a gift from God and we do not possess this spirit without it being given to us by God first. At death, this spirit is taken away but thanks to Christ, there is a resurrection from the dead.


  11. “God’s elect…abode-of-god/.”
    Completely forgot about earth being the mid-understanding of spiritual things. I’m just so focused on heaven because it’s the most talked about.

    “The verses you quoted…to come out of.”
    This is exactly what kept going through my mind, but it’s such an overwhelming truth maybe the carnal part of me didn’t want to believe it. It’s true, though. Nearly everyone knows about the word “Christian.” I wonder if that whole deception is merely a tool God uses to distinguish His true elect from earth dwellers…definitely something to look into now.

    “The name “Christian”…just called disciples.”
    Wow! The more I question myself during my studies and come to you, the more I realize I need to start reflecting and listening, because this is what I noticed, but paid no mind to it (I now see the flaw with being taught certain things by religious church-goers. It’s truly deceiving). I always thought, “I mean…the scriptures never say God them Christians. It merely said the disciples were called Christians…”

    “I don’t have a clue why…Greek of Acts 11:26.'”
    I think this is something that would merely encourage the idea of God calling His people Christians.

    “Consider this; do you…an earthly alphabet.”
    This, I always stress. People continue to put their human thinking into interpreting scripture and their belief, but I try to make a clear distinction between spirituality and carnality. I’m always countered by, “It’s easier to explain and is just common sense,” but what they fail to realize is that it leads to complication and complexity of the scriptures, and can even be very misleading. Of course, Jesus is just the fleshly name. People act like God walks around their idea of heaven like, “Hey Jesus, I’m glad you volunteered to die for the world’s sins. I’m proud of you.” It’s also a taboo for them when I’m exasperated with something and say, “Jesus Christ…” or “Oh my God..” and they tell me, “Don’t say His name in vain.” Oh, the many fables and perversion of the scriptures.

    “I do not believe that…or speak about.”
    I agree. I mean, the oldest form of the English language didn’t even exist until about 450 AD. Clearly, God isn’t connected to earth the way people think. However, now I’m curious. How exactly did God communicate with His creation in the beginning? Spiritually? This is something I want to look into now.

    “Furthermore, claiming to be….overcome.”
    I agree with this as well. However, my question is: Who is the 144,000 mentioned? Is that merely symbolic for something or is it an actual number of a certain group of people? Someone I used to associate with in the Church of Christ said the minister did a sermon on this, but she doesn’t remember. All she knows is that it’s a Jehovah’s Witness teaching. I thought that was a great explanation and answered all my questions.

    “Now what is a church?…DEATH (destruction).”
    I understand what church means, and now it makes more sense especially when you clarified that God’s elect is actually called out in Rev.

    “The belief in…that is God’s responsibility.”
    Absolutely true. I actually remember writing about this when I was younger, how everything in this world is cause and effect. However, some people don’t know that free will has to do with “uncaused choices.” They believe free will means that God gave us the choice to sin, and we have the freedom to do anything with our choices, and that Eve’s choice was to eat from the tree of knowledge. However, that’s is man’s limited knowledge, because the scriptures clearly say that God ordained all of this BEFORE the foundation of the world. Saying that Eve caused all of this assigns her some divine power equivalent to God’s, and that it was disobedience against God under the influence of Satan. Yet Christians always argue that God is “all-knowing.” That only arises the question, “If God is all-knowing, why didn’t He know that Satan was going to rebel against Him in heaven (fable)? Why doesn’t He stop all of this evil? Why didn’t He stop Eve from eating from that tree?” It becomes a complex, unsolvable mystery that leads to, “God works in mysterious ways.” Man’s thinking is very contradictory. You can even use man’s logic to defeat their logic. 1 Cor. 25 pretty much sums this up.

    “The Christian church states that a person must “choose” to accept the salvation that is in Christ in order to be saved. If you don’t choose Christ in your earthly life before you die, then you will spend eternity being barbecued alive in some god forsaken hell. Here is an example of the filthiness of the whore’s fornication with the kings of the earth;

    “John 6:44 Any man…of Christianity.”
    OK. This makes plenty more sense. I actually read all of John first time coming around, and I was never sure about certain things. Some things I’m still looking into. However, I did think John 12:32 meant Christ’s ascendance to heaven. But after your explanation of heaven, how exactly did Christ’s ascendance play out? Did he just like, dropped unconscious while he went to join God in His abode?

    “So I see you realize…unscriptural nonsense.”
    John 14:28 got me—I can’t believe I didn’t even realize this clear separation. I always argued hat the three are one until I read the YLT. Now proposing this scripture to others, they just might present the scriptures where Jesus says that God dwells in him and he in God, this trying to verify the trinity. Clearly it’s spiritual, but what exactly would be a better explanation of the passage? Christ said in John 14:10+11 that he dwells in the Father and the Father in he, and in John 6:56 Christ says that those who eat his flesh and drink his blood (not literal, of course) dwells in him. Logically, they can’t equate Jesus and God because of John 14:10+11 because then they would be equating themselves with Jesus based off of John 6:56. In the case, their logic would follow God = Jesus = Christians. Yeah…doesn’t make sense.

    “It needs to be said that the gospel that is being preached in the world today is not the gospel of Christ. It is a counterfeit gospel and there is very little truth in it. Preaching the gospel has nothing to do with saving souls. When I share these truths that God has revealed to me, not one time do I ever think about someone’s salvation. When I say saving soul campaigns, I’m referring to the process by which people get saved in the Christian church.”
    The gospel of Christ is that he died for our sins, resurrected, ascended to heaven, and now we must follow his example and get others baptized. Now, some sects of Christianity preach that you don’t need to be baptized because all you need to do is confess and believe that Jesus is Lord and Savior. I see the contradictions with this doctrines, but Jesus clearly says:

    Mark 16:16 KJVS
    [16] He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Matthew 28:19 KJVS
    [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    And the apostle(s):

    Acts 2:38 KJVS
    [38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    And throughout Acts people were baptized, that’s why it’s called the book of conversions. Now, I know there’s a literal baptism with water from John before Christ was crucified, and I know he clearly said that Christ will baptize those with the Holy Ghost and fire. We also know that this fire isn’t literal, I mean, why would God burn people to be baptized, right? But we go back to the book of Acts where people are baptized. It is also argued that we must follow everything Jesus did, because he set an example for us (tbh, I need to find that scripture, because I’ve never seen this myself), and Jesus was actually baptized in water by John. Am I missing something with Christ’s instruction to baptize people? I mean, those scripture really do speak for themselves, right?

    “Your last question…We must overcome…”
    This is my current situation. If I were to try to show what the Bible says, Christians wouldn’t listen because they’ve been indoctrinated with years of perversion of the scriptures. It doesn’t matter how much I try to show them the truth that would provide them answers against atheists who ask questions that lead to “God works in mysterious ways / God said His thoughts are not our thoughts / God knows people’s hearts / etc.” All of these answers leave holes that you cannot further validate with scriptures, and can even disprove their own faith. I understand your frustration, because I cannot even communicate with those closest to me, even if I’ve never proposed this only because of how they react to other things. I just always think, “How would they react if I told them ‘heaven’ ain’t exactly what they think it is?” But we will overcome, otherwise that would be calling God a liar and if He’s a liar, then He most likely doesn’t even exists. Perhaps overcome simply means our faith will remain strong until the very end, and as long as we don’t lose it, then we actually have overcome the gates of hades. Plus, if fellowship is merely an assembling and discussing spiritual matters, would this not be fellowshipping now? Besides, there are people who will actually read our discussions and your posts.


    1. How exactly did God communicate with His creation in the beginning? Spiritually? This is something I want to look into now.
      The bible gives some examples of how God communicates with people which is typically in the form of a messenger such as angels. Exodus 3:2 AND THE ANGEL OF THE LORD APPEARED UNTO HIM IN A FLAME OF FIRE OUT OF THE MIDST OF A BUSH: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. God speaks to men in visions but God has never been revealed to any man because the scriptures tell us that no man can see God and live. In Numbers 22, God speaks to Balaam through the mouth of a donkey, lol so God indeed operates in mysterious ways.
      Who is the 144,000 mentioned? Is that merely symbolic for something or is it an actual number of a certain group of people?
      Always remember that Revelation is mostly all symbolic. These numbers are not literal. Even the 1,000 year reign is symbolic and I think it’s actually silly to think this is referring to 1,000 literal earthly calendar years. Anyway, the bible uses numbers as symbols such as 7 representing the “number” of days God created the earth. The number 7 represents completion so when we read about the 7 churches spoken of in Revelation, this is not talking about 7 literal churches that existed some 2,000 years ago. The 7 churches in Revelation is referring to the “complete” church in all ages. So with this understanding, we know that the Israelites were divided into 12 tribes represented by the 12 sons of Jacob whose name was later changed to Israel. We also know that Christ chose 12 disciples who would later become the founding apostles of his church. The number 12 represents a foundation so the symbolic number of 144,000 (12,000 x 12,000) is referring to the complete foundation of God’s new world government that will be led by Christ with God’s elect being the officials of Christ.
      They believe free will means that God gave us the choice to sin, and we have the freedom to do anything with our choices, and that Eve’s choice was to eat from the tree of knowledge.
      It is imperative for Christians to believe in free will because this is the only way they can believe that it is their responsibility to save themselves. The hoax of Lucifer is what they believe demonstrates that free will is real. Free will is an illusion. Christians have NO answer for explaining these scriptures;
      Romans 8:20-21 For THE CREATURE WAS MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
      However, I did think John 12:32 meant Christ’s ascendance to heaven. But after your explanation of heaven, how exactly did Christ’s ascendance play out? Did he just like, dropped unconscious while he went to join God in His abode?
      John 12:32 is referring to Christ being lifted up on the cross but after Christ is resurrected from his death, he does return to the spiritual abode of God’s (heaven). Understand that Jesus Christ existed with God before his earthly life. In Genesis when it says, LET US make man in our image; God is referring to Himself and Christ. Jesus Christ existed with God before the foundation of the world so when Christ “ascended” to heaven, he returned to where he came from. Understand that man has a “heaven” and then there is God’s “heaven”. We cannot access the spiritual realm in this physical realm but God gives us spiritual insight (understanding) so that we can see and understand the things of God. This is why Christ tells us that the kingdom of God is within you. Man’s heaven is a place of delusion hence the completely unscriptural fabrication of a literal heaven with mansions and streets of gold. This is why Christ says in Matthew 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art EXALTED UNTO HEAVEN… These people weren’t literally exalted to God’s heaven; they were exalted in man’s heaven (the state of spiritual delusion) thinking that they were blessed and mighty because of their own efforts. So when Christ died, he was resurrected, glorified, and ascended back to the abode of God in the spirit realm where he came from. Because of our carnality, it is hard for us to wrap our minds around this and it took me some time to really understand it.
      John 14:28 got me—I can’t believe I didn’t even realize this clear separation. I always argued hat the three are one until I read the YLT. Now proposing this scripture to others, they just might present the scriptures where Jesus says that God dwells in him and he in God, this trying to verify the trinity.
      First understand that most Christians DO NOT want to hear the truth so do not stress over this. They will find any and every way possible to argue their point. They cannot accept the truth in their current state of deception and we already know that many go the broad way to destruction.
      There are other ways to explain the absurdity of the trinity doctrine. Consider this;
      Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: FOR THAT WHICH IS CONCEIVED IN HER IS OF THE HOLY GHOST.
      So Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Ghost. Can you find one scripture that says that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Holy Ghost (Spirit)? Jesus Christ is always referred to as the Son of God. If the Holy Spirit is a co-equal deity of a triune God, then why is the Holy Spirit not given credit for being the father of Jesus Christ? The Holy Spirit is God’s Spirit for God is Spirit. They are the same and not two distinct personalities. In addition, they cannot deny all of the scriptures that clearly show that “God” is the God and Father of Jesus Christ. If Jesus and God are co-equal, how can either one be the God of the other?
      Am I missing something with Christ’s instruction to baptize people?
      Water baptism is a symbol of something spiritual. Being physically immersed in water is nothing but a bath.
      Romans 6:4 Therefore WE ARE BURIED WITH HIM BY BAPTISM INTO DEATH: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      Colossians 2:11-12 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: BURIED WITH HIM IN BAPTISM, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
      Going down in the water is a “symbol” of our death in Christ. When a person is raised from the water, this is a “symbol” of our resurrection to a new life with Christ. Participating in water baptism doesn’t mean a person has spiritually partaken in the more important “spiritual baptism” in Christ. The “act” of participating in water baptism is not wrong per se, but in virtually all churches, this is all that takes place without any understanding of the spiritual connection. Many of these physical outward practices are symbols for something spiritual. We are not required or bound to fulfill any of these religious activities.
      Perhaps overcome simply means our faith will remain strong until the very end, and as long as we don’t lose it, then we actually have overcome the gates of hades. Plus, if fellowship is merely an assembling and discussing spiritual matters, would this not be fellowshipping now? Besides, there are people who will actually read our discussions and your posts.
      God knows the current state of his church and overcoming doesn’t mean that we will never fall or struggle in life for these things must occur in order to overcome it. Didn’t Peter deny Christ 3 times? In fact, all of the disciples deserted Christ during the events leading up to his crucifixion. Falling is necessary for us to stay humble but we must learn from the storms we go through and grow in Christ.
      God put it on my heart to make this blog for people just like you who are searching for the truth. You are right that people will read our comments and some will benefit from it I’m sure. There was a man that reached out to me on YouTube based off of a comment I sent on someone else’s post. He was struggling with his understanding of the doctrine of hell and I was able to fill in the gaps for him and share the real gospel of Christ with him. God uses us to plant the seed and then He waters it as He deems necessary.


      1. “is referring to 1,000 literal earthly calendar years”
        Definitely true. Besides, our current calendar is not only 2016 years old, but the Word of God clearly states (figuratively speaking, of course) that a day is like a thousand years to Him (2 Peter 3:8). Taking that literally, we would only be reigning with Christ for a day. Uh oh…

        “Anyway, the bible uses…’complete’ church in all ages.”
        Truly? Under what speculation? I’ve always believed it did take God 7 days to complete His creations, hence our 7-day week, the first day of the week in which the disciples met and taken communion, and the sabbath day indicated in the scriptures. So what of the first day of the week and the sabbath? And what of the 12,000 in that calculation?

        “Man’s heaven is a place of delusion hence the completely unscriptural fabrication of a literal heaven with mansions and streets of gold”
        I actually recently addressed man’s heaven, which is undeniably the effect of God making us in the likeness of Him, being the godlikeness we humans can have like King Nebuchadnezzar and the Pharisees. The many, many delusions man can have…

        “Going down…Many of these physical outward practices are symbols for something spiritual.”
        Completely true and validated by scripture. Thank you for that. Millions of people are probably baptized, especially under false doctrine, yet it’s true, they MUST be baptized (if they choose to be just to be safe) knowing the truth of baptism and not the unseasoned version of it. Besides, John clearly did say that we will be baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire. Now THAT’S the spiritual truth of real baptism. Now my question is: were those in Acts baptized in water? I know the Church of Christ uses it as their evidence that water baptism is mandatory. This is something I shall also look into.

        “God knows the current state of his church and overcoming doesn’t mean that we will never fall or struggle in life for these things must occur in order to overcome it.”
        That is definitely true. I didn’t even think of Peter, the most prominent example of falling from Christ shown to us in the scriptures.

        “God uses us to plant the seed and then He waters it as He deems necessary.”
        Had God not led me to your blog, I would have still been under false doctrine. Now that I know the truth, God truly is working in my life and keeping me focused. This is a blessing.

        Quick thought before sending this reply, it’s not wrong to listen to secular music like rap or R&B so long as it’s not negatively affecting my mind, right? I’ve researched this myself, but the people who have addressed this didn’t provide scriptures specifically for similar occasions. Rather, they use scriptures that were meant specifically for something else (like scriptures pertaining to wine and prostitution) but twist them to mean God meant anything that’s not giving Him praise or edifying. Even then, that reasoning only makes me think, “What about one’s job as a policeman who is allowed to kill in certain circumstances? Or watching any movies or television that’s not showing God praise? Or video games with violence?” Pretty much anything in this age what with media. I truly desire a solid answer, but their speculations only arises speculation on my part, which probably isn’t the best approach. I’m just trying to make sense of this topic.


      2. God certainly created the 7 day week for us but I don’t believe that God was bound by the limits of time since He created time to begin with. God created all of the laws with the times and seasons but these things do not have any power over God. Think of it like this; God exists eternally in the heavens (the spiritual realm) and then he creates the world with all of the time constraints. God put these time constraints on earthly things for us because it wouldn’t make since for God to have to do anything based off of a time constraint. God could make a trillion worlds in a millionth of a millisecond if He wanted to. So God created the 7 day week, the Sabbath, and all other time constraints for us not Himself. In Revelation 7, each tribe of Israel was divided into 12 tribes based on Jacob’s 12 children and each tribe is represented by 12,000 so 12 x 12,000 is 144,000.

        The baptisms that occurred in Acts I do believe included water. There is nothing wrong with water baptism just as there is nothing wrong with communion. But neither of these outward acts mean anything if they aren’t based on the truth. Water baptism is not mandatory for anything. If a person wants to be baptized then they should be baptized. These traditional acts mean nothing because they are only rituals that symbolize something greater.

        In regards to living a godly life, this is a difficult question and here is what I will say about dealing with the carnal things of this world when trying to live spiritually. It is impossible to avoid the world because we physically live in the world. Listening to rap and R&B music only serves to fulfill a carnal desire and while I don’t think that it is necessarily spiritually edifying, I will not condemn you for doing it. Here is probably the best scripture I could find on the subject;

        1 Peter 2:11-12 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

        Many people are wrong about what they think gives God praise. Sadly, there’s virtually nothing that goes on in the Christian church that gives God praise. People praise God one moment and in another they curse others with the same tongue. Remember this; Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

        De’Zsa, you are very young and you have many years to grow and learn. You are much further ahead “spiritually” than I was when I was your age. I partied, I smoked marijuana and drank alcohol, I had sex with women before marriage, I watch all kinds of movies and I’ve played very violent video games. All these things are the ways of this world and this is actually how God intended for things to be since He gave Satan dominion over this world. Our test is to not allow the things of this world to overcome us. We all will fall many times in our lives, but God will pick us up. How can we come out of the world if we aren’t in the world? How can Christ call us out of the false church of religion if we aren’t in the false church of religion to begin with? It is easy for older people to judge younger generations but they somehow forget about all of the things they did when they were young. Ignore people who judge you, but rather judge yourself, be smart and use common sense. If it doesn’t feel right, it probably isn’t but this isn’t the rule because some things do feel right but really they aren’t. I sometimes listen to a radio station that plays rap and R&B but there are other times when I play nothing at all. I try not to consume my life with things that only gratify my flesh but this is an ongoing struggle for all those who strive to live godly. Be concerned only when there is no struggle because it is the struggle that reminds us that there is a war going on in us as God transforms us into the image of Christ.

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  12. Hello again, it’s been a while. I’ve come across something while informing someone about death (since others believe that you go to heaven or “paradise”), how when we die, we just become wholly unconscious (Psalm 146:4, Ecclesiastes 3:20, 9:5-6, 12:7). When reading into the event of Lazarus, I noticed something I have never noticed before:

    John 11:23-25 (YLT) –
    “Jesus saith to her, ‘Thy brother shall rise again.’ Martha saith to him, ‘I have known that he will rise again, IN THE RISING IN THE LAST DAY;’ Jesus said to her, ‘I AM THE RISING AGAIN, and the life; he who is believing in me, even if he may die, shall live.'”

    I know that there would be a rising of the dead “in the last day,” and I also know of those who did rise after Jesus was crucified according to Matthew 27:51-53. But the confusion comes because of the scripture I provided. Well, I wouldn’t necessarily say confusion, I just know I need to discuss this, because from what I’m reading, there is no other literal rising of the dead based on common Christian belief. Not unless Jesus spoke of the spiritual rising, when one dies in the Christ and is born again. Then again, Martha explicitly stated that she knows of the rising IN THE LAST DAY.

    I think the reason why this is complex is because of Revelation 20, when John witnesses the FIRST rising again:

    (YLT) v. 5-7 – “and the rest of the dead did not live again till the thousands years may be finished; this [is] the first rising again. Happy and holy [is] he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years may be finished, the Adversary shall be loosed out of his prison.”

    And this rising again occurs after the thousand years, and despite reading “the first rising again,” I have yet to come across mention of the second rising again, only the second death aka Lake of Fire. Surely, this rising again is merely spiritual that somehow relates to the kingdom of God, New Jerusalem, and/or the paradise of God.

    I’m still studying the Word of God, and I know there are major holes in my studies, but I’m determined to seek as much truth as possible.


    1. The resurrection spoken of in Matthew 27:52-53 is symbolic and the way we know this is because of Matthew 27: 51;

      And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; (Are you aware of what this scripture symbolizes? If not, I will explain it so just let me know.)

      And also, if you continue reading Matthew 27, it is clear that Jesus hadn’t been literally resurrected yet when the veil of the temple tore in half as they were discussing who was going to take his body. This symbolic resurrection is referring to the Old Testament saints who died under the old covenant but now are symbolically resurrected from the grave by the death of Christ. This scripture is foreshadowing what will take place figuratively at the resurrection of Christ but they also will be literally resurrected in the last day as Martha refers to.

      There is only ONE resurrection for everyone, but everyone doesn’t experience the same resurrection.

      John 5:28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation (judgment). (So we clearly see that there are two resurrections spoken of here for humanity.)

      During the first resurrection which will be the resurrection to age-abiding life for the few (God’s Elect) that overcome the world, the rest of the world aren’t resurrected until after the age of reigning with Christ comes to an end. So, just because people experience resurrection at different times doesn’t change the fact that there is only ONE resurrection to life in Christ.

      1 Corinthians 15:22-24 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified (resurrected). YET EACH IN HIS OWN CLASS: THE FIRSTFRUIT, CHRIST (1st resurrection of Christ); THEREUPON THOSE WHO ARE CHRIST’S IN HIS PRESENCE (2nd resurrection of God’s elect); THEREAFTER THE CONSUMMATION (3rd resurrection of the the world), whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power. (This is quoted from the Concordant Literal New Testament because I believe the King James translates these verses poorly.)

      All 3 of these resurrection classes refer to the resurrection in which there is no death to follow. We know this because the 1st resurrection, the resurrection of Christ has already been completed and death no longer has any power over Christ. Jesus Christ and his disciples performed miracles by raising people from the dead, but they were raised back to mortal life in which mortal death still had power and those people died. The resurrection that takes place in Christ is a resurrection in which death has no power which means that everyone will be resurrected to life beyond the power of death.


      1. From Matthew 27:51, And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

        Well, I know that Christ referred to His body as the temple that will be destroyed and raised again, so this scripture is undoubtedly referring to Him. And the veil represents Christ’s flesh because of Hebrews 10:20. The earth refers to just humans and their carnal mind, and the fact that they quaked means their mind has been shaken. And the rocks in their splitting event refer to man’s foundation of their existence, because I know that rocks usually symbolizes foundation, and because of Peter’s strength of will, he acquired the name that means stone. To summarize, Christ’s crucifixion opened the door for those to be saved, but my understanding of how that relates to man and their carnal mind being shaken is still a little blurry. I would definitely appreciate further insight.

        So with the resurrection of the saints, the last day Martha referred to isn’t literally the last day of mankind, but the last day under the old covenant.

        And I never knew that the resurrection of the saints was figurative for resurrection of life through Christ, that has most definitely cleared things up for me. I mean, it makes sense because it would have been unmerciful for God to neglect saving of those who already died under the old covenant.


      2. There is a more practical understanding to Matthew 27:51 and I’d be glad to explain it. During the days of Jesus and even during the Old Testament, worship in Jewish temples symbolized things that were ultimately fulfilled in Christ. Inside of the temple, there was a place called the “Holy of Holies” and this place represented God’s presence with man here on earth. The rest of the temple was the area where men would dwell and worship God but there was a literal “veil” that separated the area where men dwelt and the Holy of Holies (God’s presence). This veil represented the separation of God with mankind because of sin. Only a priest could enter behind the veil once a year to present an animal sacrifice for the atonement of Israel’s sins. When Christ died, the veil tore in half because Christ has permanently atoned for the sins of the world. There is no more separation from God due to sin and men can now dwell with God through Christ.
        In regards to the resurrection, let me explain some things because I think you may have misunderstood me. In Matthew 27:52, I think the argument could be made that the many saints that were resurrected after the resurrection of Christ was an actual literal resurrection because in verse 53, it says that they appeared unto many. It is not unlike scripture to have a literal and spiritual application but if these saints were literally resurrected, I can assure you that this resurrection was no different from the resurrection that Lazarus experienced which was a mortal resurrection. The work of Christ ended the old covenant and the last day is a reference to the day of the Lord’s coming in which the world of this wicked age on earth comes to an end. Then everyone will be resurrected to life according to their class as Paul explains in it 1 Corinthians 15.


      3. I knew about the actual temple, but the veil and Holy of Holies representation was beyond me. I know I need to read more, but now I’m thinking about how I should go about it without missing key points. Do you have any suggestions on how I should read the scriptures? I usually start from the beginning of a certain book, and refer to cross references. But now I’m not sure that’s effective enough to understand the whole of God’s truth. Perhaps I should read by subject?

        Oh duh, I completely forgot about the scriptures before and after v. 52. But OK, so Martha truly was referring to the end of iniquity.


      4. Yes, any reference to the last “day” as in referring to the second coming of Christ is the end of this sinful age. It is refreshing to know that this evil sinful world does come to an end. As for studying the scriptures, I don’t think there is a science to it because I read whole chapters at times but for the most part, I study by subject. Cross referencing is a good method but it usually only serves to point to other related scriptures or quotes from the Old Testament. I find that the best way for me to study is to pick a subject that I want to know more about, then I search the scriptures for words pertaining to that subject. So for an example, when I did my study on the doctrine of hell, I first searched every reference to the word in the whole bible (KJV). Note: I study the KJV first because most if not all bible concordances are based off of the KJV. Then I studied the Hebrew and Greek words that were translated as hell and other words. This is how I found that the KJV translators translated the Hebrew word sheol as hell and grave. Once I come to a conclusion of the truth, I study different translations that I consider to be more reliable such as Young’s Literal Translation which translates no Hebrew or Greek word as hell. Studying like this is something that I learned over time and you’ll get better at it over time. Here is probably the most important key to studying the scriptures and it is knowing your foundations of truth. What are you foundations truths? This means, what truths of scripture do you believe are concrete and will not change. Here are some of the more important foundations of truth that I stand by no matter what;

        1) God is sovereign, and He is the one and only God and Creator of all things.
        2) Jesus Christ is the son of God, who was manifest in the flesh, was crucified to death to atone for the sins of the world.
        3) Jesus Christ is the savior of the world and he will save the whole world.
        4) Man doesn’t have a free will
        5) Man doesn’t have an immortal soul
        6) There is NO life after death before the resurrection.
        7) The Christian understanding of Heaven and hell are both carnal man-made ideas
        8) Satan was created by God for the purpose of evil

        There are many other truths that I stand by but these are what I consider to be essential. When I study the scriptures, I’m convinced that these truths cannot be contradicted and they never have been. Even if I study a subject and what I’m studying appears to contradict one of my foundations of truth, I understand that it is my interpretation because I stand by the fact that my foundations of truth cannot be contradicted. When people debate me, they try to prove their point not realizing that their point contradicts one of my foundations of truth so it really is no debate at all. There are many people who try really hard to convince me that hell is real. They tell me about near death experiences, personal testimonies, and they quote scriptures (albeit incorrectly) but the doctrine of hell contradicts literally all of foundations of truth proving to me that not only is it a false doctrine, it is despicable heresy. There is no wavering in my beliefs as I am convinced and confident that God has revealed these truths to me. You must know with 100% confidence where you stand with your own foundations of truth. I know you are learning a lot and I do not expect you to be completely convinced about all your beliefs. It takes time and you will grow stronger and more confident in your spiritual wisdom as you continue walking with Christ.


      5. I actually wrote down all scriptures pertaining to the Devil/Satan because I know the truths of God, His Spirit, and His Son, including heaven and hell, the lake of fire, pretty much the scriptures that speak for themselves. What’s interesting is that your method is the exact one I decided on right after I replied to your comment, because it is the most reliable and allows no contradiction from external sources. I stand by these truths because it is in the Word of God, plain and simple. Like you said, if there seems to be a contradiction, the fault is most definitely not with the scriptures.

        So I know the subject of the Devil/Satan is complex, and I want to study every situation and event where he appeared, because I already know that there is no Lucifer.

        To address those near-death experiences, there’s scientific fact that the brain still functions a little after being “dead,” no doubt causing hallucinations and such. Just as written in the scriptures that science confirms, though: you’re wholly unconsciousness once you officially die.

        Another question: the book of life appears, I believe, 6 times in the NT. I know what it’s for, but I want to further understand this: there is a second death—the lake of fire—and the book of life holds the names of those saved from it. There’s another resurrection afterward? Because if death and hell are cast into the lake of fire, why do the scriptures note a second death? And is there an instance of resurrection to life after that despite there being the book of life? Confusing for me. In the meantime, I will continue to search the scriptures, but I do look forward to your response.


      6. Hi De’Zsa, it’s good to hear from you and I’m pleased to see how diligent you are in seeking the truths of God’s word. The book of Revelation has many mysteries and there is much that I am still learning when it comes to understanding the symbolism of Revelation. It shouldn’t surprise you that none of the things you listed are literal. The second death is not a literal death, the lake of fire is not a literal lake of fire, and the book of life is not a literal book with a list of names. I think what’s confusing is the order in which these events take place including the two resurrections and God’s final judgment. Let me first define the symbols and then I will put these events in Revelation in their proper order.

        Second Death – this phrase is used (4) times in the scriptures and they are all written in Revelation. We already know what the first death is and this is the physical mortal death. But there is also a “spiritual death” that is represented in the life, “death”, and resurrection of Christ. There are (2) spiritual second deaths and we all partake in one of these second deaths. True believers go through the spiritual second death in this life since we are dead in Christ and resurrected to a new life in which we are dying daily and mortifying the deeds of our flesh. The rest of the world will partake in the last spiritual second death of the lake of fire which is when God will completely destroy the carnality of man, evil, sin, death, and the grave. The lake of fire second death is worse than the spiritual second death in Christ.
        Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; HE THAT OVERCOMETH SHALL NOT BE HURT OF THE SECOND DEATH.

        Lake of Fire – I know you already read my paper on the lake of fire so I know you know what this represents but here is a quick refresher. The whole world of Christianity thinks that this lake of fire is a literal pool of lava in which God will literally cast real people to be barbecued alive for all eternity. This belief is so disgusting but I understand why people believe it and the power of Satan’s deception is all too real. The lake of fire judgment is synonymous with the hell (geenna) judgment that Christ spoke about. What is interesting about this lake of fire is that “death” and “hell” are cast in it. The Greek word that has been translated as hell is “hades” and it means the grave. So death and the grave are both cast into the lake of fire. What is significant about this? Paul reveals a very significant truth that helps us understand what the lake of fire represents;
        1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
        So we see here that death is destroyed but this doesn’t happen until after the two resurrections. The only way that death can be defeated is if everyone is given life.
        1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE.
        If any person remains in the state of death, death still has power which means that the power of sin still has reign. Death is likened as an enemy but what does Christ do to his enemies?
        1 Corinthians 15:25 For he [Jesus Christ] must reign, TILL HE HATH PUT ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.
        Death and the grave (hades) are both destroyed in the lake of fire. God also destroys the works of the flesh (carnality) in the lake of fire. This WHOLE process is the “second death”. The second death is the death of death and all things that lead to death including sin.

        The Book of Life – this phrase is no doubt confusing but the confusion begins when Revelation is interpreted literally. The book of life is not a real literal book. We have to decode these words with spiritual thinking. We already know that Jesus Christ is the “life” as we are told in John 14:6, so the book of life is the book of Jesus Christ. So what do you do with a book? You read it right?
        The book of life is only a symbol that refers to the believers who overcome as they abide in Christ. You are written in the book of life if you abide in Christ because Christ is the book of life. Read John 15:1-11.

        Order of Events in Revelation
        1) Second Resurrection (Remember Jesus Christ was the first resurrection) – at the second coming of Christ, the dead saints will be resurrected first and then the living saints will be changed. In this resurrection, we will be resurrected in spiritual immortal bodies. Jesus says that spiritual bodies are like the wind. These represent those written in the book of life (Jesus Christ).
        2) 1,000 year reign with Christ – this is the reward of age-abiding life that is given to those who believed and overcame the world in their earthly life. It is my belief that this is the time in which Christ will give out saint specific rewards including a new name and a position in the government of God. This is also when I believe Christ teaches and trains us to be judges and saviors for the world. This is also the period in which the devil will be bound for 1,000 years.
        3) Third and Final Resurrection – this is when the rest of the world is resurrected to age-lasting judgment.
        4) The End of the 1,000 year reign with Christ – the devil is loosed from his prison but this is not a literal physical jail cell. During the 1,000 year reign, the saints of Christ will be on “earth” but we spiritually “dwell” in heaven. The devil doesn’t have dominion or power over “heaven dwellers”.
        Revelation 12:7-8 And there was WAR IN HEAVEN: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; NEITHER WAS THEIR PLACE FOUND ANY MORE IN HEAVEN.
        Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, WHICH DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: HE WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him.
        During the 1,000 year reign with Christ, the rest of the world is dead and in the grave, so there are no more people for the devil to deceive because the devil can only deceive those who dwell (spiritually dwelling) in the earth and sea.
        Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. WOE TO THE INHABITERS OF THE EARTH AND OF THE SEA! FOR THE DEVIL IS COME DOWN UNTO YOU, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
        5) The Lake of Fire and the Second Death – The devil gathers all of the inhabitants of the earth and sea to prepare for battle against the saints of Christ. God devours the devil and he is cast in to the lake of fire along with the beast and false prophet. The beast is a symbol for the carnality of man and the false prophet is a symbol for the whole false kingdom of man’s religion. There is no such thing as a one man AntiChrist.
        6) The Great White Throne Judgment – this is when God judges the world in righteousness. The world will be purged of evil and sin. The rest of the world will be given immortality because God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away (Revelation 21:4)


  13. Do you think that the so called “rapture” where it says the saints are caught up in the air with christ is actually symbolic and not actually literal.

    I also been pondering matthew 6:33 when Jesus says” seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”

    Then I come across Luke 17:21″ …behold the kingdom of God is within you.”

    If Jesus is telling us that we must first seek the kingdom and that kingdoms lies within us. What does this mean and, how would one do that?


    1. The “rapture” is not symbolic or literal because it’s not even scriptural. The Greek word that is translated as “caught up” is harpazō and it is defined as to seize or to take by force. The scriptures used to justify this “rapture” in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 is misinterpreted. Christ only returns to the earth a second time and there is NO advent that preludes his second coming. The rapture theory suggests that the saints are literally taken away from the world to avoid tribulation but this not what the scripture says;

      Matthew 24:29-30 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: AND THEN SHALL APPEAR THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, AND THEY SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY.
      So remember that there is only ONE second coming of Christ and there are only TWO resurrections. In the first resurrection, the dead saints are resurrected and the living saints are changed in spiritual glorified bodies. Christ tells us in John 3:8 that these spiritual bodies will be like the wind. When Christ returns, the saints meeting the Lord in the air only seems weird if we think this will be in a human body but that will not be the case. The saints of Christ will then reign with Christ for 1,000 years on earth and at the end of this period; the wicked are resurrected to judgment which is the second and final resurrection.

      The kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom and we are the temple of God. God’s spirit lives and dwells in us and God is working to transform those who seek Him into the image of Christ. In this life, we are at war, the carnal man vs the spiritual man. When we deny the carnal man, the spiritual man gets stronger but when we give in to the lusts and desires of the carnal man, our spiritual man gets weaker. Many people are spiritually dead because they live and walk throughout life serving only the carnal man. God is raising up a kingdom of spiritual sons and daughters to reign with Christ in the spiritual kingdom that Christ will set up on EARTH at his second coming and not in some magical heaven in the clouds. Seeking the kingdom of God first is Christ telling us to put spiritual matters first. If you read some of the context of Matthew 6, you will see that Christ tells his listeners to not worry about the matters of this earthly life. Now, I have a family so it would be quite foolish for me to just quit my job trying to be all extra “spiritual” and what not but Christ is telling us to not put these worldly things first. God knows that we need food and clothes and that we need money to take care of our families but if one gets consumed by all of life’s affairs; one can easily lose sight of the more important matters of the spiritual.

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  14. Thank you for getting back to me on the subject on sit. In my former church, {no longer go to any church} we did speak in tongues and interpret. It was done deceit and in order in a home fellowship.I always rehearsed my interpretation beforehand, because we might be called on to sit and interpret! It didn’t seem very spiritual to me! I wonder if sit in my private life would benefit me? I was told it was perfect prayer. I was also told that only the Epistles are addressed to the called out church of today our time. Every thing else is for our learning.


  15. Thanks for the response. The way you explain it makes perfect sense. But there’s still verses that seem to contradict that. What about where the bible says they will be on the outside, crying and nashing their teeth, where t the worm dies not? I’m just really confused.


    1. There are NO contradictions in God’s word but the truth has been distorted by poor bible translation and carnal minded interpretation. When Christ uses the phrase “weeping and gnashing of teeth” this is a description of how people will respond when they realize that they haven’t been invited in God’s kingdom. Remember that the saints of God reign with Christ for 1,000 years then the rest of the dead will be resurrected where they will experience judgment. There will be many people who think they should be in the kingdom of God but they will not. When they realize that they are the ones Christ was referring to when he said “I never knew you” there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. This has nothing to do with being physically tortured with fire in hell. The phrase “worm dieth not” is a little more difficult to understand because there is a spiritual message that most are unable to discern. Christ uses this phrase in conjunction with the Greek word geenna which is also another one of the words the KJV improperly translates as hell. Geenna is the name of an ancient valley outside of Jerusalem where people would sacrifice their children in real fire to the pagan god Molech. It later became a garbage dump where bodies of executed criminals were cast and those who committed suicide. As long as trash and bodies were dumped in the literal geenna, the fire was not quenched and their worms did not die. There is a spiritual application for what took place in literal geenna. In the same way that literal geenna destroyed filth and flesh, spiritual geenna is God’s process of destroying the filth and carnality of our sinful nature. I’m not by my computer so I can’t get into a lot of detail here but I have written material on this subject in my series on the false doctrine of hell exposed.


  16. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this with me. I’ll keep in touch with you. I have a lot of studying to do before debating with anyone again, lol. Blessings.


    1. You are much further ahead than you realize because you recognize a need to study. Most people that I talk to are quick to reject the things I say and call me a cult follower. God bless you brother and I’m available if you have any other questions.


  17. Hey Sulaiman, I do hope everything is well with you.

    Just some brief input:

    In Romans 11:32 – For God hath concluded them ALL IN UNBELIEF, that he might have MERCY UPON ALL.

    I have a feeling some people would be quick to point out the word “might” and conclude, “See??? He said might, not that he WILL.” But “might” doesn’t belong in this scripture at all.

    The Greek word used for this second half “might have mercy upon all” is έλεέω (eleeō) which means “to have mercy upon,” so God will undoubtedly have mercy upon all, not MIGHT, like translations include.

    I know I’ve disappeared for a while (computer science is extremely demanding), but I still get emails from comments on this page of your website. I will be going through your other pages to read others’ comments and your responses.


    1. Hello De’Zsa, nice to hear from you… You are correct that many will take the word “might” and try to use it as a suggestion that there is a force or power that could possibility stop God from having mercy on ALL. Unfortunately the KJV and many other translations have successfully accomplished a deceptive tactic by inserting these “auxiliary verbs” such as might, could, would, should, etc to change the tense and emphasis.

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  18. From God’s Plan of Salvation for the Whole World:

    “When I speak with people concerning the subject of universal salvation, I’m frequently asked questions like, if God is going to save everyone then why do we need to repent? If God is going to save everyone, then why not just sin and live it up? If God is going to save everyone, we should just murder, steal, and rape all we want? I actually had one person tell me this verbatim;

    ‘If there is no heaven or hell and if all men will be saved anyways in the end then this is my conclusion: I don’t care about God. I don’t care about his son dying on the cross to save me. I don’t care about the Holy Ghost. And I don’t care what his word says for me to do in the bible during this life. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart’.

    Answers like this are the product of a very evil self-righteousness spirit. When people believe that they have repented of their sin and start to live righteously according to God’s word, people start to take credit for something only God can do. Most people repent falsely and their motivation to live righteously is based on the fear of going to hell. This is spiritual terrorism and it doesn’t present the truth about the freedom that exists in Christ.”

    This is what saddens me deeply, because people will think, “What’s the point in doing good then? I may as well do whatever I want,” and I had a similar situation with someone.

    I even asked someone this unbelievably absurd question:
    “If God told you to kill one thousand babies to enter heaven, and if you didn’t you’ll go to hell and burn forever, what will you do?”

    The person told me they’d kill the babies, only proving my point that it is heaven/hell that lead people to “repentance,” not the truth.

    I still can’t believe it, how even revealing God’s unlimited mercy, people will take it for granted and as a GO to sin.


    1. People make such foolish comments out of ignorance and deception. They have no clue that they are under the control of the workings of Satan but Christ will destroy all of the works of Satan in the end. We can rejoice because our Savior proclaims that he will make all things new.


    1. Your question first implies that heaven is an actual place that people go to after death. I am well aware of the popular Christian belief in going to a heaven and the scriptures used to justify it but the truth is that redemption is in the resurrection and not a magical fairytale heaven.


  19. We’re close to possibly having a female president. This makes me think about how the bible makes it clear that women shouldn’t have authority over men in Genesis, Corinthians, Deuteronomy, Enoch and something else. Bible specifically makes it clear that women were made for men not the other way around and makes it clear that a woman should submit to the authority of her husband, should wear something over her head and many other things. What do you think about this, do you think men are supposed to have authority over women and women shouldn’t have positions of authority over men? Obviously a man should treat a woman with compassion, moral righteousness and so on even if it’s true, but i have trouble with this. Jesus didn’t do away these laws did he? If he did it makes it seem like the laws weren’t all that great to begin with.


    1. Also a second part of my question is what would you say to people who say that women are better than men and God made a woman to help man because he was helpless without her and a woman is a better 2.0 model from God than a man?


  20. My question is what are your views on the law not applying to us anymore ? Many Christians teach that the law has been fulfilled which means it ended with Jesus death on the cross they say.


    1. You mean laws like thou shall not kill? If that law doesn’t apply to us anymore does that mean that it is now acceptable to kill? Of course not… Jesus Christ certainly fulfilled the law but He didn’t do it by keeping the written letter of the law but rather by revealing and keeping a much higher spiritual law. Thou shall not kill only applies to the man who has enough hate in his heart to kill. Jesus taught that if you had hate in your heart, you have already committed murder. The law reveals the true condition of the human heart. We no longer have to worry about not killing because instead of hating our enemies, we love our enemies. So it is true that we are not under the law of Moses but we are under a much higher law and that is the law of the spirit of life that is in Christ which frees us from the law of sin and death.


  21. Hello Sulaiman. I just wanted you to clarify something for me.

    At Jesus’ second coming every person that doesn’t follow Jesus is going to die for that millennium?

    There was somebody that told me God’s real name is Ahayah and that Jesus’ is Yashayah.
    What do you make of this?

    And you said that Heaven is a spiritual place, will we be there in the spirit and not physical bodies after everything is finished?


    1. At Jesus’ second coming every person that doesn’t follow Jesus is going to die for that millennium?

      Every person that doesn’t follow Jesus represents nearly the entire worldwide population from the beginning for Jesus himself says that there will be virtually no faith on earth when he returns. All of those people will not live again until they participate in the second resurrection which takes place after the millennium.

      There was somebody that told me God’s real name is Ahayah and that Jesus’ is Yashayah.
      What do you make of this?

      I really don’t get into arguing and debating that name of God and Jesus. There are literally dozens of secret name societies and people who think that are special because they supposedly know the “true” name of God or Jesus. It is all nonsense to me. Jesus is perfectly fine and I’ll call God what Jesus called him, Father…

      And you said that Heaven is a spiritual place, will we be there in the spirit and not physical bodies after everything is finished?

      Heaven is a spiritual realm… it is not a place that people go to like a vacation. There a millions of people that think that they will be going to a “place” called heaven when they die but that is just not true. When people die, they are dead and they stay dead until they are resurrected back to life from the dead. So again, heaven is not a place but a spiritual realm and people can experience “heaven” in this life. Remember that Jesus Christ himself said that the kingdom of God is within you… God doesn’t care about people worshiping Him in church buildings built by men. True church is God dwelling in the temples of our bodies as He transforms us into the perfect image of Jesus Christ. This is spiritual stuff as Paul clearly tells us that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. There are also spiritual bodies that Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 15 when he discusses the resurrection. Also, the saints of God reign with Christ on earth and not in a place called heaven.


      1. The lake of fire is a symbol for God’s purifying judgment. Punishment or torment are fine words to describe it as long as your mind doesn’t descend into the lowest depths of human depravity. The Christian church teaches that the lake of fire is literal unending torture in real fire. Not only is that evil, it is absolutely INSANE… God is not a cruel sadistic monster and if what the church teaches was true, God would be more evil than all of the world’s worst tyrants combined… The lake of fire judgment will last as long as it takes to completely purge out all of the sinful carnality in every single person that is cast in the lake of fire. At the end, all of humanity will be created into the spiritual image of God having knowledge of good and evil but there will be no more evil ever. We will all be spiritual immortal children of our Amazing Creator…


    1. I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t but life in the resurrection will not be like it is in this world for Christ tells us that we will be like the angels of God. The old order of this world will end and God’s kingdom will rule over the earth. How a person dies in this life such as “cremation” has no power over God’s resurrection. All will be resurrected regardless of how they died on earth…


  22. I have recently come out of religion. I was a Christian all my life until the thought of hell terrorized me. I was watching a YouTube video on Angelica Zombrano and I had so many questions. I had an ultimate fear of where will I go ? Where will my children go ? I want to be with them. It was hard for me to think of a happy “after life” or heaven if I’m not sure that they will make it there Or that we might not be together in some way. I cried and prayed and fasted and opened the bible to find Gods truth to my questions and not that of man. I dismissed anything I had ever heard or known until this point and I did a lot of searching. I realized that the bible seemed to be in code so to speak. I broke down some of the words to find their original meaning and felt better things seemed more clear. I found your page and finally I had hope and I felt close to the answers of Gods truth. But I need help. I notice that there is so much argument about universal reconciliation that I became discouraged and the peace and joy that I had in my spirit was shaken. I don’t know if I believe it’s true because I want it or because God led me to it. I’m struggling to accept it with my brain but I already believe it in my heart. I need to get these two on the same page. What can I do where can I start. Should read more books on this subject or can you help me breakdown the bibles true meaning or is this something I must struggle with on my own to come up with my own ideas. Please anything you can do to help me I would really appreciate deeply. Thank you for your response.


    1. There is so much disagreement about universal reconciliation because Christians DESPISE the idea of God saving all of His sinning creatures. Christians think they are special and they want their enemies to be barbecued alive for all eternity. Never mind the fact that we are admonished to love our enemies. The Christian church is CORRUPT and full of blasphemous heresies with hell being the most evil and despicable of their doctrines. It took some time for me to come to my conclusions so just continue to trust God and believe that He will give you the peace and reassurance that He is indeed a God of Love. Here is a great article written by L. Ray Smith titled “You Fools! You Hypocrites! You Snakes!” and he exposing Christianity as the corrupt religion it is. Here is the link – In addition to that, L. Ray Smith’s greatest work may be his Lake of Fire series which is extremely long but definitely worth your time and I think it will answer many questions you may have. The link to his site is If you have any specific questions concerning the salvation of all, I’d be more than to answer them as best as I can but I believe that you are already on the right path to truth and peace. God bless…


  23. Thank you so much for getting back to me. You put my heart at peace with your words in response to my email. I cried a joyful relief and I truely appreciate your help and guidance as I am only in the beginning of my journey. I have read what you suggested on the website and some more and I am feeling much more confidant that God led me here and gave me the truth but I am wondering how would one know if they were called by God to do his work and what would life be like once they knew so ? Would they literally leave their family to follow Jesus ? How would it be ? How did life change for you once you knew Gods True Gospel ?


    1. You are very welcome…
      It is not natural for the carnal man (the man of sin in all of us) to seek after or do the things pertaining to God’s will. God has to cause a person to seek after Him to do His will and when God begins to call us, we respond and most are not even aware that God is working in us. Honestly, even being a part of the corrupt church is a part of God’s process for how can His people COME OUT OF HER (Revelation 18:4) if they are not first in her? Coming out of the church is necessary and you have already stated that you left religion. You didn’t leave religion on your own; God gave you a reason to leave and it was the same for me. When I was a deceived member of the Christian church, I believed in hell but only out of ignorance and fear. I despised it and I actually hated God for creating it. I could never be at peace thinking that I could die and go there just for “backsliding” and then dying without repentance. I would literally have nightmares over that crap and I simply couldn’t associate myself anymore which such spiritual terrorism. I left the church and was once again, in the world but I never stopped thinking about God or searching for answers. There are things that will happen in your life that you will know was inspired by God because you wouldn’t have done it otherwise. God knows that we need worldly things to survive in this present world but we are not to allow the things of the world to consume us. We are the love God more than our mothers, and fathers, children, spouses, and even ourselves. This is the first commandment and it is not a bad thing for when one truly loves God, they become a better parent, child, spouse, and person overall. Life, for the most part will be the same as I still go to work and provide for my family. I go to my kid’s games when they play sports, I watch movies, and I have arguments with my wife, and so on. Life goes on and we must continue to deal with all of the travails of life in this world, but our walk with God is spiritual and not physical. We are being transformed into the image of Christ but that transformative process takes a lifetime of overcoming sin and dying to the pulls of our flesh. God takes us through various forms of judgment in our life to produce the righteousness through learning. So don’t get caught up and stress yourself out thinking that you must literally “work out your salvation” through human deeds for it is God that works in us to will and to do of His perfect will. Do what is right for yourself and for others and you will be fine…


  24. Thank you for your response. I had come to the conclusion that I can be myself while God in working out the kinks in me. Your response just backed up how I already feel. I have already come to so much of Gods truth and I will continue to seek as I’m sure he will continue to reveal to me so much more. I thank God for putting people like you in my life to help ease my worries and help guide me to his truth straight from his word. Everyday I am in class and God is my teacher. Though I may fail a few tests and struggle to understand the lesson he will stick with me until I get it right. My ultimate text book is the Holy scriptures and I am eager to study and to learn. Thank you for being so patient and understanding. May God bless you and your beautiful family.


  25. So I asked this question but I can’t find it because I didn’t click “send email for replies”, thank you for replying to my other two. What do you think about baptism?


  26. Okay, let me be maybe a bit more clear. Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins. When is it when someone receives the forgiveness of sins?


    1. That’s not exactly what is stated in Acts 2:38 so let me quote it just to be clear…

      Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the “NAME of Jesus Christ” for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

      Notice that repentance comes first and then one is “baptized” in the NAME of Christ but what does it mean to be baptized in the “name” of Christ?

      Colossians 2:11-13 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in BAPTISM, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES,

      First and foremost, this whole process is God’s operation… a person must be called to faith, called to repentance, and called to be baptized in Christ all by God. There is NO human that can do any of these things without God’s intervention. Jesus Christ has already atoned for the sins of the whole world but the world is still deceived under Satan’s influence and sin still reigns in the lives of many… The world needs judgment and in the end the world will be baptized with the spirit of God and FIRE (Matthew 3:11) which is a symbol for God’s judgments.


  27. So are you saying repentance and baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is the same thing? Or is baptism in Jesus name being water baptized? How about in matthew 28:18-20 same baptism? Isn’t there one baptism? baptized with the spirit isn’t that what happened in acts 2 as a prophesy not really a command. “wait there and you will be baptized by the Holy Spirit” Acts 1


    1. No, I’m saying that repentance must occur first before one can be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. You cannot be baptized in Christ without repentance… Being baptized in Christ has nothing to do with water baptism. Water baptism is just a symbol for the spiritual baptism in Christ which is outlined in Colossians 2:11-13. There is scholarly debate that Matthew 28:19 is corrupt as the words “baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” do not appear in any of the earlier manuscripts. These words were added only to provide some form of justification to the Christian doctrine of the trinity. Here is a decent article on that subject if you want to read it So Matthew 28:19 in it’s proper translation is the same “ONE” baptism that Peter spoke about in Acts 2:38. Those who were baptized with the spirit of God at Pentecost was a fulfillment of prophecy not a culmination of the prophecy. God will pour out His Spirit upon all flesh…


    1. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

      The word “heaven” is not even included in this scripture so it is false inference to even suggest that Satan met God in the spiritual realm of “heaven”. Remember that “heaven” is NOT a physical place like earth. Heaven is an invisible spiritual realm. God is “Spirit” and therefore He dwells in spiritual heaven. Satan doesn’t dwell in heaven, he dwells in the EARTH…

      Job 1:7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro “IN THE EARTH”, and from walking up and down in it.

      Nobody met God anywhere because God exists everywhere and one doesn’t need to go to some place to meet God. They (the sons of God and Satan) “presented” themselves before the Lord… millions of people all over the world believe that they are “presenting themselves before the Lord” on Sunday mornings when they go to their church buildings but that doesn’t mean that they literally ascend up into the spiritual realm of heaven to meet God. A believer can “present” themselves before the Lord in their car on their way to work for an example but they most certainly do not leave their car and meet God in a literal physical heaven. Remember that the kingdom of God (heaven) is within you… (Luke 17:21).

      I don’t mind answering your questions but please make sure that you are making a comment based on the subject material of what I have written on this site…


  28. When I first came across your page here,I was hopeful,cause you are wright on the money concerning the teachings of Christendom. And your spot on concerning death and the salvation of all. And of course hell,but I don’t see you talking about rightly dividing the word of truth,which I believe to be the two gospels,that of the cercumcision and un cercumcision,Paul’s secret message to the Gentiles was much different from Jesus and the deciples message. Another words,there is a difference between the bride of Christ and the body of Christ. And do you believe in the trinity?


    1. There are a lot of subjects that I haven’t covered but I am not actually sure what you mean by “two gospels”. The scriptures are clear that there is only one gospel although there are many counterfeit gospels. Physical circumcision was only a symbol in the flesh but it represents a higher spiritual teaching in that true circumcision is the destruction of the works of the flesh and not just the cutting off of the foreskin of a penis. What is this “secret message” you claim that Paul taught to the Gentiles? Paul’s teachings were all backed by the teachings of Christ. I do not agree that the bride of Christ and the body of Christ are different and no I do not believe in the trinity at all.


  29. Hello, i have really enjoyed reading your material on Hell. I have struggled with the doctrine of eternal hell for as long as I can remember. I could make philsophical arguement of why it didnt fit with a good God’s character but could not get around the scriptures that taught it. You have given me a great gift here! Thank you!
    I do have a question though. What does Paul mean when he says ” to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord”? In addition, he said he was hard pressed between staying in the body and departing and being with Lord, which he describes as being a better option. I look forward to your answer. God bless you!


    1. I’m glad you found the article about hell to be helpful as I too am very familiar with the type of spiritual bondage that it causes. As to your question, Paul doesn’t say, “to be absent from the body [IS] to be present with the Lord”… He says, We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, [AND] to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:8). I have heard this scripture preached many times and every time I’ve heard it, it was preached the same way you presented it. It may not seem like a big deal to change “AND” to “IS” but in terms of proper interpretation it becomes a rather big deal as much Christian heresy has been created from make such a minor change in the reading of that scripture.

      So, with that said, being absent from the body doesn’t automatically and immediately result in being present with the Lord but rather, being absent from body will eventually and at some point in time result in being present with the Lord. When a person is “absent” from their body, they are DEAD… Paul talks about this in the beginning of the chapter…

      Verse 1 – For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

      Our earthly house is our human body and it will eventually DIE (dissolve) but there are also “spiritual bodies” which will be our new building of God. Paul talks about this in more detail in 1 Corinthians 15.

      Verse 2 – For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

      In our weak human bodies, we groan – suffer, hunger, get sick, age, etc… desiring to receive the immortal spiritual bodies that do not die, get sick, or suffer the ailments of our earthly bodies.

      Verse 3 – If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

      Paul knew that in order for him to receive his spiritual body in the resurrection, he had to die first in his earthly body. He knew that he would be clothed again in the resurrection in a spiritual body full of power and immortality (not capable of dying). Those that come up in the first resurrection will be clothed with the righteousness of Christ and will suffer no shame as in the case as one would be if they were exposed naked for all to see.

      Verse 4 – For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

      Paul is speaking of “future” events… remember AND TO BE… that is pointing to the future. Mortality being swallowed up of life is the same language he uses in 1 Corinthians 15 when he described the enemy of death being destroyed (abolished). All of this occurs in the resurrection which of course is in the unknown future. So Paul is willing rather to be absent from the body (dead and in the grave awaiting the resurrection) AND to be (future event) present with the Lord (in the resurrection to age-abiding life). Paul knew that his earthly life was coming to an end but he still was a man. He didn’t want to leave behind the spiritually immature Christians but he also understood the bigger picture.

      Hope this helps…


  30. So if blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this age or the age to come, how will such a person be saved/enter into the kingdom?


    1. An age is a period of time so ages have a beginning and an end. This age will come to an end and the age to come will have an end as well thus resulting in the beginning of a new age. That age will be the age of “judgment” also referred to as the resurrection to judgment. Most of the entire human race will rise in this particular resurrection to experience God’s judgment but judgment is a GOOD thing… Judgment produces change and correction. When parents judge (teach, train, chastise, correct, discipline, etc) their children, the goal is for a change in behavior to be produced. It is no different with God… God will judge the world in righteousness not torture in some pagan Christian netherworld called hell. The prophet Isaiah made this prophecy concerning God’s judgment and its impact on the world…

      Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

      Who is not included in “the inhabitants of the world”? The inhabitants of the world includes everybody even those that blasphemed the Holy Spirit… so a better question would be why aren’t the inhabitants of the world learning righteousness right now? Well, simply because God’s judgments are not presently in the earth in this present age but in a future age (ie. age of judgment – the resurrection to judgment) God will judge the world which will result in the inhabitants of the world learning righteousness.


      1. Thank you for your reply! One last question that you may have some better insight on is the Lord Lord verses of Matthew. When Jesus says ‘depart from me you who work lawlessness’ where would they be departing to? I always assumed this would be the lake of fire for eternal punishment.


      2. Most Christians make that assumption because sadly, that is what the Christian church teaches… Most do not even realize that Christ is talking about Christians in Matthew 7:21-23. Think about it? What group of people refer to Christ as Lord Lord? What group of people prophesy in the name of Christ? What group of people cast out demons in the name of Christ? What group of people do many wonderful works in the name of Christ? Christians do… No other group on the entire planet qualifies for doing all of those things except for Christians. Now, in verse 22, Christ says “MANY will say to me in the DAY… What day? The day of judgment… Remember that there are two resurrection events, the first resurrection to age-abiding life and then the second to age-during judgment. The saints of God or God’s elect will rise in the first resurrection to reign with Christ for 1,000 years. During this age, the saints of God will establish God’s government on earth (the kingdom of heaven). The rest of the dead (the majority of the human population) will be in the grave awaiting the second resurrection to judgment. There will be millions upon millions of deceived Christians that will rise in the second resurrection to judgment however it is my belief that Christ’s words apply to the leaders, ministers, and pastors of Christianity as it is their influence that has caused many Christians to be deceived in the first place. At the conclusion of the 1,000 year age of the first resurrection, the second resurrection to judgment will commence. God’s kingdom will already be established on earth and MANY of these Christian leaders will come to Christ hoping to enter the kingdom but they will be rejected. They will have missed out on reigning with Christ and they will leave weeping and gnashing their teeth. We know that during the age of judgment God’s judgments will be fully in the earth so wherever they depart to, they will be experiencing judgment. Nobody goes to hell and nobody suffers eternal punishment… those are nothing but evil Christian inventions created during the dark ages when Catholicism was in power centuries before Protestant Christianity ever existed…


  31. With regards to Freewill – Isn’t it necessary for love to be a possibility? How can anyone be judged for what he has no control over? How can anyone be considered stubborn and stiffnecked without the exercise of freewill? Yet these terms are used throughout scripture.


    1. Human beings are very complex creatures. We have a body that can experience the world around us through our five senses – sight, sense, taste, smell, and sound… We have a brain that can learn, comprehend, retain and process information. We are also very social connecting with other people through family relationships, friendships, and intimate relationships. Don’t get me wrong, human beings do in fact have a “will” but the implication that it is free is absurd. If humans have freewill, what is our will free from? Do children have freewill? Are children free to do their own wills or are they subjected to doing and following the wills of their parents? Freewill completely ignores the power of CAUSAL INFLUENCE. You ask in regards to freewill, isn’t it necessary for love to be a possibility? Well the bible says that God is love so does God have freewill? Is God free to tell a lie? Why not? What is the causal influence that has determined that God will not lie? The scriptures tell us that God works ALL THINGS after the counsel (law) of his own will and since He has decided that He won’t lie, He doesn’t lie. You must understand that the entire universe operates under laws… Humans are a part of the universe and we are also subjected to laws as well. God designed everything this way. The idea of freewill is lawless and it robs God of His sovereignty. If humans have freewill, then God is NOT sovereign, humans are. Here is a perfect scripture that illustrates how man has stolen God’s sovereignty attempting to substitute himself as god…

      John 6:44 Anyone can come to me regardless of whether the Father draw them or not as long as they exercise their free will…

      Is that what the scripture says? Of course not but that is exactly what is taught in virtually all Christians churches all over the world. Here is what the scripture actually says…

      John 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. (NKJV)

      Where is freewill in this scripture? Is it possible for any person to come to Christ if the Father hasn’t drawn them? Belief in freewill is blasphemy…

      Now, back to love… human love is just an emotion regulated by the way we feel. Most of the time, love begins with physical attraction. Then love becomes emotional, mental, and then physical. For many people, that order is reversed and oftentimes love is confused with lust. So with that said, love would actually be IMPOSSIBLE with freewill because love requires things to happen before it is activated. Nobody walks up to someone they are not attracted to and then automatically fall in love with them for nothing and from nothing.

      Your second question is a little more complicated but the scriptures answer that question very plainly in Romans 9:18-21 quoted from the Contemporary English Version;

      Everything depends on what God decides to do, and he can either have pity on people or make them stubborn. Someone may ask, “How can God blame us, if he makes us behave in the way he wants us to?” But, my friend, I ask, “Who do you think you are to question God? Does the clay have the right to ask the potter why he shaped it the way he did? Doesn’t a potter have the right to make a fancy bowl and a plain bowl out of the same lump of clay?”

      Here are some other scriptures that illustrates that God is behind the scenes pulling the strings…

      God sends people strong delusion… 2 Thessalonians 2:11

      God gives people over to a reprobate mind (corrupt or worthless way of thinking)… Romans 1:28

      God causes blindness (as in incapable of understanding)… Romans 11:25

      God subjected creation to vanity (weakness, futility, and worthlessness)… Romans 8:20

      Read Daniel 4 (the whole chapter)… God turned King Nebuchadnezzar into a beast of the field in his mind for believing he had freewill…

      God is sovereign and He controls everything… God will judge us because He wants to change us. I’m not actually sure why judgment is given such a bad rap but judgment is actually a good thing. The purpose of judgment is to produce correction. When a young child tells a lie, remember that nobody had to teach the child how to lie. This is what being subjected to vanity means… We were created this way or rather predisposed to doing what is wrong… The child may not fully understand what a lie is or the implications of lying but parents are still expected to chastise them so that they can learn not to lie. That is judgment… Wouldn’t you agree that not lying is a good thing? So the process that caused the not lying should also be considered a good thing as well! A person doesn’t need to have freewill to be stubborn or stiff-necked… All they need is a will that is subjected to enough influence to cause them to act in such a way. God doesn’t necessarily have to do all the pulling… He can give you crappy parents which could easily cause someone to be stubborn however, most people are naturally stubborn anyway on varying levels. The older people get, the more stubborn they become because they get set in their ways. Being stubborn becomes a habit and it is also a lust of the flesh. It feels good to the flesh to stand your ground rather than submitting to the will of someone else.


  32. Jer 18 1 – 4 “The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord saying, 2 “Arise and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will announce My words to you.” 3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something on the [a]wheel. 4 But the vessel that he was making of clay was spoiled in the hand of the potter; so he remade it into another vessel, as it pleased the potter to make.”
    The potter had an original intenton for the clay but the clay would not conform. So the potter, in his sovereignity, created from the clay a vessle which is better suited.
    Jer 18: 6-10 “Then the word of the Lord came to me saying, 6 “Can I not, O house of Israel, deal with you as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel. 7 At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to pull down, or to destroy it; 8 if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will [b]relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it. 9 Or at another moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to build up or to plant it; 10 if it does evil in My sight by not obeying My voice, then I will [c]think better of the good with which I had promised to [d]bless it.”
    Freewill would seem to be necessary in order to choose or choose otherwise. If God can and is willing to impose his will for choosing His elect and that will is irristible (as the calvinst would claim) then why not simply choose all now, if no cooperation in required on our part.
    I would also point out, in every case where scripture talks about hardening or closing the eyes and ears, it is always preceded with an initial refusal to see, hear, or perceive. ” Romans 1: 21 “For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened”.
    Here is another example – Mathew 13: 15 ‘You will keep on hearing,]but will not understand;
    ]You will keep on seeing, but will not perceive;
    15 For the heart of this people has become dull,
    With their ears they scarcely hear,
    And they have closed their eyes,
    Otherwise they would see with their eyes,
    Hear with their ears,
    And understand with their heart and return,
    And I would heal them.’
    Does God not want them to understand? Let’s look at Zech 7: 11 -13 “1 But they refused to pay attention and [k]turned a stubborn shoulder and [l]stopped their ears from hearing. 12 They made their hearts like [m]flint [n]so that they could not hear the law and the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets; therefore great wrath came from the Lord of hosts. 13 And just as He called and they would not listen, so they called and I would not listen,” says the Lord of hosts;
    Perhaps I’m getting your ideas mixed up with that of Calvinism (which is horrific in my mind) but if we do not have freewill then I do not understand rewards in the kingdom heaven or how judgement can be more severe for one verses the other. It seems we have to exercise a will that has at least some level of freedom tho maybe not totally free.


    1. Saying that the clay would not conform suggests that the clay had power over the potter to thwart the potter’s will. That is simply not what the scriptures teach. In Jeremiah 18:4, the word “spoiled” is used in the translation you provided and this word comes from the Hebrew word “shachath”. This Hebrew word is also translated as the words destroy and corrupt. Other bible translations use the words flawed, imperfect, broken, and marred to describe the condition of this clay. How did the clay get in this condition to begin with? Did the clay choose from it’s own “freewill” to be flawed, marred, and broken? I have already provided you with a scripture that answers this question and this is all a part of God’s will as it is stated in Romans 8:20 which I will quote from a few different translations;

      Everything God made was allowed to become like something that cannot fulfill its purpose. That was not its choice, but God made it happen with this hope in view: (Easy-to-Read Version)

      For creation was condemned to lose its purpose, not of its own will, but because God willed it to be so. Yet there was the hope (Good News Translation)

      The world was “spoiled”. It did not want to be spoiled, but God allowed it. (Worldwide English New Testament)

      Against its will, all creation was subjected to God’s curse. But with eager hope, (New Living Translation)

      How more clear can the scriptures be? The scriptures again, give us another parallel that explains the spoiled clay in the hands of the potter and the remade clay that pleased the potter…

      Romans 5:17-18 For if, by the trespass of the one man [Adam], death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.

      The “spoiled” marred, flawed, broken clay of Jeremiah 18:4 is creation made in the likeness of Adam which brought sin and death to all of mankind. Jesus Christ is the remade vessel that pleased the potter and in his likeness, all will be justified with his righteousness and life. There is no freewill and you cannot interpret the scriptures in a way that supports a personal theory. The scriptures must harmonize together and be a witness for the explanation of other scriptures.

      Freewill is not necessary to choose, a will is necessary to choose. Again, I will ask you… do children have freewill? I have 4 children and none of my children are allowed to exercise there own will in my house. They most certainly have a will and to be more specific, the will of my 15 year old son would be to play video games all day, not go to school, not clean his room, not take a bath, and eat Doritos for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Although that is his will, he doesn’t do it… Why do you think that is? My son number one respects my authority as his father and he also understands that I have the power to make his life miserable. All of that constitutes influence… My son can (with his own will) choose to skip school one day to go hang out with his friends, but he will have to ponder at some point dealing with my wrath. More times that not, his imagination about my wrath is sufficient enough for him to submit to my will over his own which keeps him in line for the most part.

      If someone pulled a gun to your head and asked for your wallet, what would you do? Your will which would be greatly influenced by FEAR in that moment would likely cause you to give up your wallet with the hopes of your life being spared. So by the principle of causality, a choice that is influenced by anything cannot be free and all choices are subject to influence. Can you even think of one choice you’ve made in your whole life that was made freely?

      You stated, “if God can and is willing to impose his will for choosing His elect and that will is irresistible (as the calvinst would claim) then why not simply choose all now, if no cooperation is required on our part.”

      Remember that God operates ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL and not the will of Jeff or Sulaiman… God has a plan and He will work out His plan in His own timing… Do you really think that it’s possible to reject God’s will? Who has resisted God’s will (Romans 9:19)? People do what God ALLOWS… Just because God permits people to do their own wills for a season doesn’t change God’s position or status as being sovereign over all. What makes you think that no cooperation is required on our part? The prophet Isaiah prophesied in Isaiah 26:9 that when God’s judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. Do you think its possible for some of the inhabitants of the world to somehow reject God’s judgment and not learn righteousness? When the Deliverer turns ungodliness away from Jacob, do you think it’s still possible for Jacob to be ungodly (Romans 11:26)? Total cooperation will be required on our part.

      People that refuse to see or hear are not capable of seeing and hearing because God must first open them up to have understanding. Humans by nature are carnally minded making them incapable of perceiving the things of God. A person in their carnal state cannot understand spiritual matters and that is why nobody besides the disciples could understand the parables of Christ. Why, because it was given to them to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to everyone else, it was not given (Matthew 13:11). You ask, does God not want them to understand? If God allowed the Jews to have understanding, the same Jews that handed over Christ to the Romans to be crucified may not have done so which could’ve resulted in us not having a savior… Again, God works in His timing not ours…

      I am not a Calvinist nor do I believe in any of his teachings but what does the concept of freewill have to do with rewards in heaven and judgment? Judgment can be more severe from one to the other in this life. A murderer is not punished the same way a liar is punished yet they are both said to have their part in the lake of fire. You think humans are more fair than God? God will choose rewards as He sees fit… it’s not up to us anymore than a child can choose who their parents are. Some children are born to wealthy parents while others are born to parents living in poverty. Who chooses or allows that to happen? It is the order of the world ordained by God so all is of God. People simply want to claim to much credit for God’s work failing to realize that without God, nothing good or pleasing to God could ever be accomplished by humans without God’s intervention.


  33. Thanks for you answers. I find alot of what you are saying to be refreshing and true. So salvation is a free gift for the whole world but the Kingdom of God is not a free gift or is it? Also curious about your intepretation of Rev 22:15 4 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
    By the way. have you ever read any George MacDonald? If not, I think you would enjoy his sermon entiled “Justice” part of his Unspoken Sermons series. Here’s a link if you are interested.


    1. Glad to help! I wouldn’t necessarily say that salvation is a free gift for the whole world but the whole world will be saved because it is God’s will. That’s why He sent Jesus Christ who is the Savior of the world not the failure of the world. It will not be free because it will cost everybody everything. Not everyone will inherit the kingdom of God nor will everyone receive aionios (age-abiding) life to reign with Christ. However, at the conclusion of the eons, there will be a grand consummation in which the whole world will be inducted into the family of God. This of course happens after being purged of sin in the lake of fire and judged to learn righteousness…

      Before I explain Revelation 22:14-15, please remember that there is virtually nothing in the entire book that is literal. The book of Revelation is a symbolic book concerning the testimony of Jesus Christ…

      Revelation 1:1-2 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants things which must shortly take place. And He sent and SIGNIFIED it by His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw.

      The word “signified” comes from the Greek word sēmainō and it literally means to give a sign as in a symbol or a mark. So when we read things like, “out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword” in Revelation 1:16, we know that Jesus doesn’t literally have a sword coming out of His mouth but rather this is a symbol. Hebrews 4:12 tells us that the two-edge sword coming out of the mouth of Christ is the “word of God”…

      Revelation 22:14-15 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.

      The first clue to interpreting these two scriptures is noticing that we have TWO groups of people.

      The first group are those that are “Blessed” and they wash their robes, have the right to the tree of life, and they may enter into the city…

      The second group are “OUTSIDE” and they are classified as dogs, sorcerers, immoral, murderers, idolaters, and liars…

      These two groups of people represent those that rise in the first resurrection to life (God’s elect) and those that rise in the second resurrection to judgment (the rest of the world).

      Revelation 20:6 “BLESSED” and holy is he who has part in the FIRST RESURRECTION.

      The “tree of life” is Jesus Christ… and those that “wash their robes” or follow the commandments of Christ will have a right to enter into the city or “New Jerusalem”. They will enter into the kingdom of God when they rise in
      the first resurrection to reign with Christ…

      The second group is “outside” because they are dead in their sins in the grave “outside” of the realm of life. When they rise, they will experience the lake of fire judgment which is the second death. God will kill them (the sinning dying version of them) but they too will be reborn spiritually which will result in an invitation to “COME” in verse 17…

      Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
      The whole world will be invited to partake in immortality!

      I have not heard of George MacDonald but I will certainly check out the link…


  34. Rev 21: 25 – In the daytime (for there will be no night there) its gates will never be closed;
    Do you understand this verse to be describing a perpetual ability to enter the Kingdom of God and the completion of judgement on non-believers will not be simultanous?


    1. In regards to Revelation 21:25, I don’t believe that this verse is particularly describing a perpetual ability to enter the kingdom of God. I believe this whole chapter is speaking of those that rise in the first resurrection because in verse 7, we read, “He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son”. The cowardly (fearful), unbelieving, abominable, murderers, immoral persons, sorcerers, idolaters and all liars do not inherit the things described in this chapter. Their judgment is still pending at this point… The practical purpose of closing gates would be to keep evil outside of the gates. The gates of the holy city, New Jerusalem, are never closed because there is no evil in the new heaven and earth…


  35. I’ve been looking more into your theory that satan was created on purpose as opposed to theory that he was a fallen angel. Have you written any thing explaining against the doctrine based off genesis, fallen angels supposedly mating with humans and creating the giants? If so what article would I find that in and if not what is your take on that interpretation? Googling all of this literally makes my head hurt lol


    1. I have not written any articles specific to that ridiculous teaching in Genesis 6 but I can assure you that no angel has ever mated with a human to create anything.

      Genesis 6:1-2;4 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

      This has absolutely NOTHING to do with “angels”… we are clearly told that these “sons of God” took WIVES for themselves. In order for a woman to become a wife, a human man must first MARRY her.

      Matthew 22:23-31 The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. Last of all the woman died also. Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.” Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.

      What did we just read that is applicable to that absurd teaching of Genesis? There is NO marriage in the resurrection because we will be like the angels of God hence ANGELS DO NOT MARRY so an angel cannot have a wife, plain and simple. The sons of God are simply human men not fallen angels. I have had this argument with dozens of people and they simply do not and cannot except the truth. They will ignore this truth but then try to show me scriptures that they think proves another scripture to be a lie. What kind of biblical scholarship is that? Scripture harmonizes with scripture it doesn’t contradict it. Jesus spoke well when He stated, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God”. Sadly, this is the state of Christianity as a whole as they (the whole institution of Christendom) knows very little of scriptural truth.


      1. I completely agree. God has been trying to show me for a while the problem with church doctrines. I began getting frustrated listening to sermons that were produced by pulling random verses here and there to make it correlate with their message. I was frustrated because I wasn’t being TAUGHT how to accurately read scripture, so I wasn’t. I read a little on a my own but had no understanding of it despite wanting it. So that’s been my prayer these days to really dig into the scriptures. This is off subject but have you ever considered creating a facebook group or something for discussions like this? If there is one thing that is lacking is true teachers of the word and not everyone is called to be that, there are so many people like myself craving to learn but not knowing where and how to start.


  36. Mathew 22:11 -” And the king, having come in to see[h] the ones reclining-back [to eat], saw there a person not having dressed-in[i] the clothing of [j] a wedding. 12 And he says to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here, not having the clothing of a wedding?’ But the one was silenced. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Having bound his feet and hands, throw him out, into the outer darkness’. In that place, there will be the weeping and the grinding of teeth. 14 For many are called ones, but few are chosen ones”.

    Where is this “outer darkness”? Is this the same darkness that Peter speaks about in 2 Peter 2:17? ” These ones are waterless springs, and mists being driven by a storm, for whom the gloom of the darkness has been reserved.”


    1. The phrase “outer darkness” is not a literal place but rather a spiritual condition. Matthew 22:11 is a part of a parable and parables are not meant to be interpreted literally. None of what is written in Matthew 22:11 literally happens but it is describing a comparison to the many that are called and the few that are chosen. The many called ones are referring to the children of the kingdom (Israel) and even modern day Christians and the few chosen ones are referring to God’s elect. There are two resurrection events that will occur at some point in the future but these two resurrections are separated by 1,000 years. The few rise first in the resurrection to life and reign with Christ for 1,000 years. The rest of the wicked unbelieving world remain dead in the grave awaiting the second resurrection to judgment. So that’s 1,000 years they will spend in the “outer darkness” of death and not in God’s kingdom.


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