Part 4
In Part 4, I will be discussing the meaning of the Hebrew word `owlam and the Greek words aiōn and aiōnios and how they all have been improperly translated as eternal or everlasting in the context of judgment and punishment.
Hebrew – “`owlam”
The Hebrew word `owlam appears in the Old Testament of the King James bible 439 times and according to Strong’s Concordance, it is defined as long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, or world.
`Owlam is used in scripture in the following manner: ever (272x), everlasting (63x), old (22x), perpetual (22x), evermore (15x), never (13x), time (6x), ancient (5x), world (4x), always (3x), alway (2x), long (2x), and more (2x).
If you take some time to consider that this Hebrew word `owlam appears 439 times and there are at least 13 different words that have all be translated from this word should provide enough evidence that we need to be careful when attempting to understand its true meaning. I think it should be noted that this word is translated to mean everlasting and never which should tell you there is a problem with this translation. Let’s look at two scriptures that translate `owlam as everlasting and never;
Jeremiah 32:40 And I WILL MAKE AN EVERLASTING [Hebrew – `owlam] COVENANT WITH THEM, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.
Judges 2:1 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I WILL NEVER [Hebrew – `owlam] BREAK MY COVENANT WITH YOU.
Now if we take these same words, and switch them, would the scriptures make sense?
Jeremiah 32:40 And I WILL MAKE AN NEVER [Hebrew – `owlam] COVENANT WITH THEM, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.
Judges 2:1 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I WILL EVERLASTING [Hebrew – `owlam] BREAK MY COVENANT WITH YOU.
We should easily be able to see that these words cannot be used interchangeably and it is obvious that the Hebrew word `owlam cannot mean everlasting and never. Now Jeremiah 32:40 tells us that God is going to make an “everlasting” covenant with them (the children of Israel). If this covenant was really meant to be an everlasting covenant, one could conclude that this covenant would “never” be broken without any need for a new covenant right? What do you think about this scripture?
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH: How can God make a new covenant if the original covenant was supposed to be an everlasting covenant? This is basically making God out to be a liar which we know is not the truth. Since God cannot lie, then there is only one other option and it is the fallacy with the translations of men. The Hebrew word `owlam does not mean everlasting. Let me show you how Jeremiah 32:40 is translated in two better renderings of the Hebrew;
and I HAVE MADE FOR THEM A COVENANT AGE-DURING, in that I turn not back from after them for My doing them good, and My fear I put in their heart, so as not to turn aside from me; (Young’s Literal Translation)
I WILL CONTRACT WITH THEM AN EONIAN COVENANT, from whom I shall not turn back; I will do good to them. And I shall bestow the fear of Me in their heart so as not to go away− from on Me. (Concordant Version of the Old Testament)
Consider this scripture;
Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from EVERLASTING [Hebrew – `owlam] TO EVERLASTING [Hebrew – `owlam], thou art God. If the Hebrew word `owlam means everlasting, then I think its fair to say that this scripture makes absolutely no sense. Everlasting is defined as lasting forever or a duration with no end. The phrase “everlasting to everlasting” implies that there is more than one period of everlasting. If everlasting means lasting forever, how can there be more than one period of lasting forever? Speaking this way doesn’t even make sense. In the context of this Psalm, the writer is speaking about time. There was a time when the mountains didn’t exist because God hadn’t created them yet. There was a time when God formed the earth and it came into existence. This is clearly speaking about how God is there in all time periods, ages, and generations. We see this is we look back just one verse;
Psalm 90:1 LORD, THOU HAST BEEN OUR DWELLING PLACE IN ALL GENERATIONS. Does this say that the Lord has been our dwelling place in all everlastings? No it doesn’t and it wouldn’t make sense if it did just like it doesn’t make sense in Psalm 90:2. The Hebrew word `owlam doesn’t mean everlasting or any word similar to everlasting. Young’s Literal Translation has Psalm 90:2 translated this way;
Psalm 90:2 Before mountains were brought forth, And Thou dost form the earth and the world, Even from AGE UNTO AGE Thou [art] God. In connection with the context of the whole chapter of Psalm 90 in reference to time, `owlam translated as age is obviously appropriate. Do you still doubt that the meaning of the Hebrew word `owlam means age?
Ecclesiastes 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the WORLD [Hebrew – `owlam] in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. As you can see, the word world was translated from the Hebrew word `owlam. What does it mean for God to set the world on the hearts of men? Would this verse make more sense if `owlam was translated as everlasting?
Ecclesiastes 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the EVERLASTING [Hebrew – `owlam] in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Using the world everlasting is even more confusing than the word world. What is the author of Ecclesiastes trying to convey? I can tell you that it has nothing to do with the words everlasting or eternal. The whole chapter of Ecclesiastes 3 has to do with one thing and it is time;
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: From verse 2 to verse 8, the author explains that there is a time to be born and a time to die – a time to love and a time to hate and so on so it is clear that the message has much to do with time. Let’s look at a better translation of Ecclesiastes 3:11;
Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its appropriate time. He has also put obscurity in their hearts so that no one comes to know the work that God has done from the beginning to the end. (Modern English Version)
The Hebrew word `owlam comes from the root word `alam which means to hide or conceal. This verse has nothing to do with God putting eternity on our hearts as some translations have it and it makes no sense whatsoever. Some believe that this verse is telling us that God has put on our hearts to be aware of eternity with the idea of taking control of one’s salvation. I don’t think anything could be further from the truth. We understand that things have there time and place in this life but God has hidden the work he has done from beginning to end from our hearts. We will never understand God’s full work in this life because God has kept it a secret from us. Everlasting or eternal is a terrible translation of the Hebrew word `owlam.
Here is just another example that proves without a doubt that the Hebrew word “`owlam” should never be translated as everlasting;
Leviticus 16:34 And this shall be an EVERLASTING (Hebrew –`owlam) statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the Lord commanded Moses. [Now, according to the KJV, this supposed “everlasting” statute (law) was the process of the Israelite priests offering animal sacrifices to atone for Israel’s sins each year but is this how our sins are forgiven?
Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL. [Jesus Christ is the LAMB, the permanent atonement for sins. This “everlasting” statute has been long voided so it is clear that the Hebrew `owlam should be translated as an age or (age-lasting) in this verse.
Greek – “aiōn & aiōnios”
Aiōnios is used in scripture in the following manner: eternal (42x), everlasting (25x), the world began (with G5550) (2x), since the world began (with G5550) (1x), for ever (1x). Let’s see an example from Scripture for each of the different uses;
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into EVERLASTING[aiōnios] punishment: but the righteous into life ETERNAL[aiōnios].
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before THE WORLD BEGAN[aiōnios with chronos],
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN[aiōnios with chronos],
Philemon 1:15 For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him FOR EVER[aiōnios];
In Romans 16:25 & 2 Timothy 1:9, aiōnios is used in the Greek in conjunction with another Greek word “chronos” to form the translation “the world began” or “since the world began”.
Chronos is used in Scripture in the following manner: time (33x), season (4x), while (2x), a while (2x), space (2x), oftentimes (with G4183) (1x).
Did you catch it? How can “aiōnios” which supposedly means eternal or everlasting be combined with “chronos” which means time, season, or a while? That’s like saying I love my wife always sometimes…. (For those of us who are married would almost think this makes sense) but this is what is called an oxymoron. The truth is that the Greek word “aiōnios” is left untranslated in Romans 16:25 and here is the reason why. In Romans 16:25, it clearly says that the mystery of the revelation of Jesus Christ was kept secret since the world began but this is no longer a secret because the revelation of Christ has been revealed. Do we have a scriptural witness? I thought you’d never ask as the scriptural proof is provided in the very next verse;
Romans 16:26 BUT NOW IS MADE MANIFEST, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: This is the reason why you do not see the word everlasting in Romans 16:25 because that would lead us to believe that the revelation of Jesus Christ to be an everlasting mystery to be kept secret from us for all eternity which would ultimately mean that we have no savior and no forgiveness of sins. Let that sink in for a few moments…
Let’s dig a little deeper;
Aiōnios is an (adjective) and comes from the root word “aiōn” which is a (noun).
Aiōn in scripture is used in the following manner: ever (71x), world (38x), never (with G3364) (with G1519) (with G3588) (6x), evermore (4x), age (2x), eternal (2x).
How can aiōn mean “age” and “eternal”? Well that is exactly how it’s been translated in your bible. I’ve actually heard people say that aiōn can be translated as an age or as eternal. An age is a predetermined period of time. Eternal means a duration without an end. There is NO possible way for aiōn to used as a translation for age and eternal. Do you still think your bible translation is God’s perfectly restored version of His inspired words? If you say yes, then you are admitting to yourself that God contradicts. God’s word doesn’t contradict but the uninspired translations of men do contradict. If we find a contradiction, it is our responsibility to search the scriptures with the goal of seeking the truth so that there aren’t any contradictions in our understanding of God’s truths.
Now we all know or at least I hope we know that a noun is a person, place or thing, and an adjective is a word that describes a noun. So we also know that an adjective can’t take on a different meaning than the noun from which it was derived. See the following example;
| Noun | Adjective |
| hour | hourly |
| month | monthly |
| year | yearly |
| aiōn (age) | aiōnios (age abiding or pertaining to ages) |
I could go on and on but I think you get the idea. Hourly can never pertain to months since the root noun for hourly is hour, so aiōnios can never mean eternal or everlasting since its root noun means age.
Aiōn and aiōnios means an age and pertaining to the ages; age abiding.
If aiōn and aiōnios really mean eternal or everlasting, let me show you a scripture that will prove how absurd this is;
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this WORLD[aiōn], neither in the world to come. [Is this earthly world eternal? If there is a world to come, then that would definitely prove that worlds or “aiōns” do not speak about eternity.
Even with this kind of evidence, the Christian theologians still think that aiōn means eternal. So let’s see;
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this eternity [aiōn], neither in the eternity to come.
How about everlasting?
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this everlasting [aiōn], neither in the everlasting to come.
Suppose that I punished my son for lying and I told him that he will not play his video game this week or the week after. Does this imply in any way that he will never get to play his video game for all eternity? Of course not but this is the same principle that we are told in Matthew 12:32. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world, life, age, (not eternity) or the world, life, age (not eternity) to come.
This world or the present aiōn is the age of wickedness in which the devil has reign to deceive the nations.
The world to come or the next aiōn will be the age of the millennial reign of the saints with Christ in the kingdom of God. (This age comes to an end)
In the next age, which will be the age of judgment, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit WILL BE forgiven. This proves that FORGIVENESS will be a part of God’s judgmental process contrary to the evil teachings of Christianity.
So we can conclude that there is NO such thing as multiple eternities or everlastings and it’s not difficult to see that this just doesn’t make any sense. There is only one eternity since eternity means forever or a duration without an end. If this is the proper translation then tell me how there can be more than one eternity or everlasting? It doesn’t even make sense to speak this way.
Now we can render aiōn the appropriate way;
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this Age[aiōn], neither in the age to come.
Now there are some really smart people that will try to figure out a way to “context” the truth out of scripture only to support the belief in eternal torture and to prove that they are the special few that God will save. They will say that the Greek word aiōn can mean eternal and an age depending on the context in which the word is used. This method is MAN’S attempt to understand God’s word without any spiritual enlightenment. Consider this example of usage of the Greek word aiōn;
Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and HE shall reign for EVER [Greek – aiōn] AND EVER [Greek – aiōn]. [According to the King James translation, this verse tells us that Christ will reign for ever and ever and I’m assuming that most would believe this scripture to be true. But is there another scripture that contradicts this scripture? Yes it is.
1 Corinthians 15:24-25 Then cometh the end, when HE SHALL HAVE DELIVERED UP THE KINGDOM TO GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For HE MUST REIGN, TILL HE HATH PUT ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET. [At the end, Christ will deliver the kingdom of God to the Father. Notice that it says that Christ must reign TILL which indicates that his reign does in fact have an end. There is no way to context a way around or out of this truth. Christ reigns for the ages of the ages.
Here is one last example of how the word aiōn has been misused in scripture;
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. [We already know from our study that aiōn means age. Consider this; what is the difference between “for ever” or “for ever and ever“?
If I say, “I love my wife for ever”, is there any difference if I said, “I love my wife for ever and ever”? Does this even make sense? The Greek word aiōn doesn’t mean ever. Let’s look at a more accurate translation from Young’s Literal Testament;
Revelation 20:10 and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [are] the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night — to the AGES OF THE AGES.
Now let’s take another look at Revelation 20:10 and focus on the phrase, “tormented day and night”. If this “torment” is literally suppose to occur day and night for ever and ever, explain Revelation 22:5?
And THERE SHALL BE NO NIGHT THERE; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. I know some naysayers will claim that this is referring to two different locations as if the scriptures ever talk about two separate earths. Day and night are associated with the realm of time in this current age. We already know that this world with all of its rules pass away so if the devil, beast, and false prophet are tormented day and night for ever and ever (or for eternity), then why are these elements of time associated with eternity? If you are a logical person with any decent common sense, you will not continue believing the lies that are taught in the Christian church today.
It should be noted that the Christian church believes wholeheartedly that God will damn most of his creation to the fiery pits of a literal hell where the souls of billions will be tortured for all eternity. They will tell you that this is a just punishment for any person that rejects God’s free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. In regards to the Greek words aiōn and aiōnios, the Christian theologians will tell you that it is true that aiōn means an age, however, they will tell you that it is the context of scripture that determines meaning instead of the spirit of God. Scripture teaches us these truths;
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. Other translations have “own” instead of “private” as in anyone’s “own interpretation”.
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which MAN’S WISDOM TEACHETH [context, context, context], but which the HOLY GHOST teacheth; COMPARING SPIRITUAL THINGS WITH SPIRITUAL. This is really the meat of the matter. You can’t understand or interpret God’s Word with a carnal mind (man’s wisdom using context). You must compare spiritual with spiritual. Scriptural interpretation has nothing to do with context. Context is the world’s way of discerning scripture. God laughs at such things as it is silliness.
Continuing, the Christian bible scholars quote 1 Timothy 6:16 as proof that aiōnios must mean eternal because of the context of this scripture;
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. According to the Christian theologians, the context of this verse is obviously dealing with God’s eternal nature. The word in Greek for “immortality” is “athanatos.” The Greek word for death is “thanatos.” The “a” in front of the word is the negator — without, non, etc. It means that God is deathless; hence, immortal. This is an eternal quality of God. Likewise, the verse states that God has eternal power (dominion). The word for “eternal” is “aiōnios” which is derived from the Greek root “aiōn” which means age. But, God is not immortal for only an “age,” nor is His dominion temporal. The word “eternal” is absolutely the best way to translate the Greek “aiōnios” because God is immortal and eternal. Therefore, it would be wrong to translate the verse by stating that God has “aionios” dominion. Rather, He has eternal dominion. Now, here is the really sick part. Christians come to this conclusion about the Greek word aiōnios so that they can make their sacred torture chamber of hell eternal for all those who reject their beliefs and version of the gospel.
Let’s look at 1 Timothy 6:16 in two different translations;
who only is having immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable, whom no one of men did see, nor is able to see, to whom [is] honour and might AGE-DURING! Amen. (Young’s Literal Testament)
Who alone has immortality, making His home in light inaccessible, Whom not one of mankind perceived nor can be perceiving, to Whom be honor and might EONIAN! Amen! (Concordant Literal New Testament)
Is there any part of these two verses that isn’t true? The Christian theologian says that God is not immortal for only an “age,” nor is His dominion temporal. Well they aren’t wrong in saying this but God’s immortality or dominion isn’t limited to the ages. That is a human inference. If I say that God is immortal to the age or that God’s love is age-abiding, this doesn’t imply that God is no longer immortal or that God’s love no longer abides at the end of the age. It doesn’t matter what age we (mankind) are living in, God is immortal in all ages. God created the ages. This justification is absolutely absurd. Let’s see what God’s Word says;
Colossians 1:16 For BY HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be THRONES, OR DOMINIONS, OR PRINCIPALITIES, OR POWERS: ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM, and for him: Should we leave out the ages? Did Christ through God not create all things including the ages? Would it be untruthful to consider God to be the God of the ages or the Eonian God seeing that it is he that created the ages (eons)? I think you can now answer these questions without the polluted lies of Christian theology. You have to understand that the theology of Christianity requires one to believe in eternal damnation so they will do whatever it takes to justify it even if it includes adding and taking away from God’s word.
The King James translators and many others for whatever reason decided to let this word aiōn mean age, ever, never, eternal, evermore, and world which does nothing but confuse the reader. Let’s look at a few scriptures so that we can see how these verses read so that we can be sure that aiōn means an age;
1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King ETERNAL, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for EVER and EVER. Amen. The Greek word aiōn is used 3 times in this scripture as eternal, and ever twice.
John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall NEVER see death. The Greek word aiōn is used in this verse as the word never. How can the Greek word aiōn mean ever and never?
Let’s do a little switcharoo with these words and see if they make any sense. Keep in mind that all of these words come from the same Greek word aiōn.
1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King EVER, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for NEVER and NEVER. Amen. Sounds stupid right…How about this one?
John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall ETERNALLY see death. Do you see what happens when people pick and choose what these words mean in different verses to suit their “own understanding” instead of just rendering the Greek as it is written?
Let’s look at a translation that is a much more accurate translation of the Greek manuscripts;
1 Timothy 1:17 Now to the King of the EONS, the incorruptible, invisible, only, and wise God, be honor and glory for the EONS of the EONS! Amen!
John 8:51 Verily, Verily, I am saying to you, If ever anyone should be keeping My word, he should under no circumstances be beholding death for the EON.”
In the Concordant Literal New Testament, aiōn is translated as eon (which is synonymous with age) all 4 times it is used in these two scriptures. Can you now see how nearly impossible it is to really grasp the true meaning of scripture when we don’t understand these translation mistakes? Usage in scripture is one way we can be sure of the true meaning of a word. We can’t create new meanings for words to fit our interpretation. Of the 128 times the word aiōn appears in the scriptures, each and every time it should have been translated as “age or eon”. So let me make myself clear on this; aiōn means an age and aiōnios means pertaining to the ages or age abiding. Don’t ever forget this very important scriptural truth.
In Part 5, I will be discussing and reviewing the word “torment” as it is used in scripture. I will explain its accurate meaning and denounce its use to denote physical literal torture.
Click the link to go to Part 5: Torment: Literal or Spiritual?
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Could you help me understand Daniel 12:2? It looks like it is saying that eternal separation from God is for the wicked. Does this mean that not everyone will be saved and going to heaven?. I really do want to believe that everyone will be saved but scripture seems to say otherwise. Your thoughts please…. Thank you and Hod bless
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Hello Rodney and thanks for your comment. I would be happy to explain Daniel 12:2 as this verse is one of several verses in many bibles that are mistranslated. Let’s take a look at this verse in the King James Version;
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to EVERLASTING life, and some to shame and EVERLASTING contempt.
Based on this translation, it does appear on the surface that there is eternal separation from God but let me show you this verse in a different translation to prove that I am not the only person that believes that the word EVERLASTING is a mistranslation for the Hebrew word `owlam;
Daniel 12:2 `And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life AGE-DURING, and some to reproaches — to abhorrence AGE-DURING. (Young’s Literal Translation)
In the KJV, the Hebrew word `owlam is translated as everlasting but in YLT, `owlam is translated as age-during. Which one is right and how can we be sure? The answer is to let scripture explain scripture and this is accomplished by finding other scriptures that use the word `owlam. So let’s take a look at Leviticus 16:34 in the KJV;
And this shall be an EVERLASTING statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins ONCE A YEAR. And he did as the Lord commanded Moses.
The statute being referred to in Leviticus 16:34 as an “everlasting” statute is the practice of sacrificing animals for the atonement of sins once a year. Is this how our sins are forgiven? Are there still Israelite priests using goats as a sin offering? Of course not, because Jesus Christ is the perfect Lamb of God that has atoned for the sins of the world now and forever.
Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL.
1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a RANSOM FOR ALL, to be testified in due time.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him TO BE SIN FOR US, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
With this understanding, it is clear that the `owlam statute of sacrificing goats as a sin offering was certainly not an everlasting statute but rather an AGE-DURING statue since that practice has long ended.
Daniel 12:2 is a speaking about TWO resurrection events and Jesus Christ speaks about this in John 5:28-29;
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the RESURRECTION OF LIFE; and they that have done evil, unto the RESURRECTION OF JUDGMENT.
It is this resurrection to judgment that is either completely ignored or misunderstood. Most people believe that God’s judgment involves torture in a fiery hell but that belief is a damnable heresy. Let me show you what happens when God’s judges mankind;
Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for WHEN THY JUDGMENTS are in the earth, THE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Do you see now? God judges to produce RIGHTEOUSNESS and not to torture people…
Let me share a revelation with you about Daniel 12:2 and it is revealed to us in the very next verse of Daniel 12:3;
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and THEY THAT TURN MANY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS as the stars for ever and ever.
First, keep in mind that the events of Daniel 12:3 happen after the events of Daniel 12:2. In Daniel 12:2, the two resurrection events take place but this occurs over ages of time. The first resurrection is the resurrection of God’s chosen elect that will reign with Christ for 1,000. After the 1,000 year age of reigning with Christ comes to an end, the second resurrection begins and this is the resurrection to judgment. God’s chosen elect are the “they that be wise” in Daniel 12:3 and we are also told in 1 Corinthians 6:2 that the saints shall JUDGE the world. Notice in Daniel 12:3 that these wise judges of God will turn many to RIGHTEOUSNESS and this happens after the resurrections of Daniel 12:2. The shame and contempt that many will experience in the judgment will only last for an age and when that age comes to an end, many will be turned to righteousness which is exactly what we just read in Isaiah 26:9.
So you see, the real gospel of Christ really is GOOD NEWS…
Hope this helps
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I got into sonship edification where we make the cry Abba father and want to be edified in God’s wisdom to quality for the higher positions in God’s government in the heavenly places that is in the book of Ephesians anyways we are also taught that the creature in Romans chapter 8 is the Sun moon stars and the hosts of heaven taken from 1828 dictionary
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The creature in Romans 8:20 is humanity and that is clearly understood from reading the context and not some man-made dictionary. The sun, moon, stars, and hosts of heaven were not made subject to vanity nor were they ever subject to the bondage of corruption (being able to die). The children of God is a reference to humanity since humanity is being made in God’s image.
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This is pretty interesting. What do you think about baptism?
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Baptism is a SYMBOL for something spiritual. Being immersed in water has no value if the spiritual aspect of baptism doesn’t take place in a person’s life.
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I noticed that you make a reference to 2 Titus 1:9. I believe you ment 2 Timothy 1:9.
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It amazes me how easy it is to make such simple mistakes even after rereading what I write several times… Thanks for the correction and it has been updated!
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I agree with much of what is written here.
YLT is a helpful tool.
Wotkingdom.com is a website with messages that teach about life (age-durning) if you’re interested
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Thanks for the comment! Never heard of that site but I’ll check it out…
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I think it would be a wise thing to seek God in a lot of fasting and prayer to show you weather hell is real or not, God will show it to you. There are lot of people who know hell is real because they have been there litterlay, it is not wise to say they are all liars, or that they just had a bad dream, because these people are all over the world, atheists, Buddhists, Moslims, Christians , pastors all kind of people from all different ages, even an 11 year old girl, they have all been in hell and they testify of it. We cannot just ignore the dozens of testimonies and say, they are liars. All these experiences are in one line with the Bible, with the character of Jesus and God and all these testimonies also in one line with each other. People see in overall the same things in hell. I have no doubt at all that hell is a real place, and the Bible I very clear about it , it is not confusing at all. So Gods Holy Spirit will lead you to all truth about this subject of hell. God bless you.
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Hello and thanks for your comment but God has already shown me that hell is a damnable Christian lie and guess what… I didn’t have to fast, pray, or do any of your typical Christian rituals for it to happen. The premise of your position is actually quite foolish as what you have stated is equivalent to me suggesting that one should seek God through fasting and prayer for God to show them “whether” Neverland is real or not. Most of God’s revelation to humanity has been revealed through His written word but sadly, men have changed the word of God through corrupt bible translating methods however, this is all actually a part of God’s will. In order for Satan to deceive the whole world; the whole world must be subjected to a level of deception that is grand-scale (Revelation 12:9). I am well aware of all the testimonies about people claiming to have seen hell or that God had showed them hell blah blah blah but it is all nonsense. If 100 million people believe a lie, does that make the lie turn into the truth? Romans 3:4 says, “let God be true while EVERY man be found a liar”… so yes we can just ignore the dozens of lies and bogus testimonies you claim to be true. So let me be clear when I say… THEY ARE ALL LYING!!! Just because you choose to believe those lies does not make the lies become truth. I think it is sad that you think billions of people being burned alive in a body that cannot never burn up or die is associated in any way with the character of Jesus Christ and God the Father. You liken the Savior of the World with the likes of the worlds most evil people such as Adolf Hitler, Sadaam Hussein, Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, and many others but you know what? All of those evil people let their victims die but Jesus and God will supposedly torture humanity in real fire for all eternity with no hope of redemption? You are one sick person if you endorse such heresy and you only prove that the power of Christian deception has no limits. Hell only exists in the deceived minds of people who believe it. I no longer suffer from such a condition as God has given me the knowledge and wisdom to KNOW that hell is not only a LIE it is rank BLASPHEMY. Maybe you should actually read my series, “The False Doctrine of Hell Exposed”, before being critical and spewing the same evil Christian rhetoric I hear from all hell believers. https://therealgospelofchrist.com/the-false-doctrine-of-hell-exposed/
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Thanks for your respond. The reason why we should pray and fast is so that Gods Spirit can be heard better. When we fast and spend a lot of time in prayer we are able to hear Gods voice better. It is Gods Holy Spirit who will lead us to the full truth, as Jesus said in John 16:13 so that will So that is why I said that. I don’t think we will be able change each other’s belief on hell. I am a firm believer of a hell where people suffer day and night at this very moment, and still many or on their way to it. I have no doubt about that at all. You are a firm believer that it is all nonsense. It is alright to see things different. The goal is that everyone seeks God and studies the scriptures for them selfs with an open and upright heart to see the truth. We need the scriptures AND Gods Holy Spirit To speak and to reveal the truth unto us. I will save your link for another time to read, it is too long to read and study it all now. God bless you
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It matters little how much a person prays or fasts if that person doesn’t pray or fast according to truth. With that said, it is ridiculous for a person to pray or fast expecting God to reveal to them whether hell is real or not when it is not even a matter of scripture. That’s like me praying to God expecting a revelation about whether leprechauns are real. Hell is not even a biblical word so every reference to it in any bible translation is fallacious. There are actually more honest bible translations in existence that do not even include the word hell not one single time such as Young’s Literal Translation. I have spent hundreds of hours researching and studying this topic and I know what I’m talking about. You however seem to do nothing but repeat the same lies that are perpetuated throughout all of Christianity. You certainly have the right to believe whatever you want to believe and I personally do not care what you believe. I am not trying to change your belief about hell. Believing in hell is really nothing special as there are literally hundreds of millions of people all over the world that believe in the damnable teaching of hell. It is not necessarily 100% their fault they are just drunk from the wine of Mystery Babylon as are you. Only God can draw a person out of such a deception but read my article at your leisure then get back with me…
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I have aslo done my own research on this subject, and can conclude that hell is real. So in my eyes you are the one who needs a revelation from God that it is real. So we are both fully convinced that what we believe is true that is why this conversation will not go anywhere. That is why I conclude to say each one of us has to seek God about all kind of subjects in life, so that His Spirit will reveal the truth, because the word of God is not enough in itself as a source of revelation , you also need Gods Holy Spirit that will speak clearly and reveal things that are not clear. God is a God who is alive and Jesus says ask and you shall receive , If we ask revelation on hell, He will give it. Ok God bless you
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Listen, you are getting very close to being blocked from this site as I simply do not have the time to continually entertain your foolishness. Let me make myself clear again… I do not care what you believe… I do not care what research you have done… I do not care about any of your conclusions, and lastly, I do not care what you think… You are just another one of many spiritual terrorists that I have encountered over the past few years so there is absolutely NOTHING special about you. This site is obviously not for you so why do you continue to make comments? This site is for the people that God is drawing to know and understand His truth as it relates to the purpose of our existence. This is not the site for hell believers to spew their evil hate message of a god that is going to torture billions of sinners in some godless pagan underworld. There are literally hundreds of blasphemous sites that support the same reprobate ideas that you have so by all means go to those sites and communicate with others like you that glorify evil. This conversation will not go anywhere because you are not capable of having responsible dialogue with someone that doesn’t think like you. That is why you didn’t bother reading my article because you think it’s a waste of your time but any person with a shred of academic integrity would’ve at least read what I have written before taking the position of an antagonists against my position. By your own actions, you have disqualified yourself from a true conversation with me with such lazy scholarship nevertheless, I really don’t care if you read it or not just know that your comments are meaningless to me. You have the audacity to come onto my site trying to tell me that hell is real as if all of the hours I spent writing my series on hell as a false doctrine was done in vain. How insulting… You want me to submit to your line of thinking without even taking a second to consider my position? Never have I communicated with a person as narcissistic as you… You have not provided a single responsible criticism of anything I’ve written. All you have done is repeat one of the most sacred heresies of Christendumb stored in your religious echo chamber which would of course be the sacred heresy of your beloved Christian hell. I would’ve had more respect for you had you posted your criticisms after having read what I wrote but you illustrated for me exactly the kind of person you are. All talk with absolutely no substance… Please do not waste any more of my time if all you intend to do is repeat lies and regurgitate the same old Christian gobbledygook…
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Hi , if I have offended you in any way, I am sorry for that, it is truly not my purpose doing so. All I wanted to do is to encourage you to seek God in prayer and fasting so that He can show you the truth on hell. Maybe it was not a good idea to do so and to do it here in a comment. I am sorry for that. I also want to apologize that I made you feel like all your research and writings are in vain by not reading them all and not giving any strong arguments. You are right, to have a good and true dialog and discussion, I should have done that. But it was not my intention to go into a deep discussion, quoting all kind of scriptures from the Bible, and coming with a list of strong arguments, so that is why I did not do that. I just wanted to recommend you to seek the Lord in prayer and fasting concerning this subject. I will still read and research your link if I am less busy than now. Please be more polite and friendly in your conversations, Jesus wants us to be friendly and to love each other, He even wants us to love our enemies and be good to them. It might even be the case that we will be neighbors in heaven. We need to think like that, Ok I will stop now replying, let us leave it like this. God bless you.,
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That’s the problem… You continually disregard my position that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO TRUTH ABOUT HELL!!!! It is a LIE, a damnable Christian HOAX that you’ve been duped into believing. Why would I waste my time praying or fasting to God expecting a revelation of truth on something I know and understand to be a lie? Do you not see how your offer of “encouragement” could be perceived as insulting? Your encouragement, which I’m sure came with good intentions was unfortunately ill-advised because it is my unequivocal conviction that hell is not only a damnable heresy, it is of the highest level of blasphemy against God that a person can commit. It is internationally and universally understood that “torture” is one of the most evil crimes a person can commit against another person. In fact, torture against animals is equally shunned and is considered to be a grave evil virtually all over the world. It is a normal earthly experience for humans to suffer, however, all suffering in one way or another comes to an end. If a person suffers there entire earthly life, they can at least rest assured that their suffering will end at death. Sadly, Christianity isn’t satisfied with people suffering in just their earthly life as they want people to continue suffering not for a century, a millennia, not even for billion eons but FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!! Any person that can rationalize the love of God with such an insane idea is a lunatic. Associating evil with the power of God is blasphemous and you Christians have placed God’s stamp of approval on the most evil Satanic doctrine ever created.
Again, I really don’t care that you didn’t read my article for I have helped a number of people suffering from the spiritual terrorism of Christianity so my research and writings were certainly not done in vain. I just wanted to point out to you the implied perception of hypocrisy for you not reading my writings but willing to offer your opinions. I welcome the opinions and criticisms of others but any opinion and/or criticism should at the least be directed at something I’ve written even if it was just one sentence. I am not interested in the personal religious opinions of random people.
As far as being polite and friendly, I don’t speak harshly to be rude to you personally. I speak in such a harsh manner because I want other readers to see my boldness and confidence when denouncing the heresy of hell and the agents of Satan that promote it. You ask me to be more polite and friendly based on a few harsh statements yet you have no issue with a god that barbecues children. I call hypocrisy… You talk about a Jesus that wants us to be friendly, wants us to love each other, and what wait… wants us to LOVE OUR ENEMIES and be good to them? Are you serious? So Jesus wants us to love our enemies while He tortures His enemies in real fire for all eternity. I call hypocrisy again… You Christians masquerade with this false image of love but internally you all are some of the most wicked and carnal minded people on the planet. If you remember, Jesus Christ spoke harshly and boldly to the religious hypocrites of his day… He wasn’t polite or friendly with them at all but in the end, He still died for their sins… Now that’s love and LOVE NEVER FAILS!
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Sorry, but I will stop here with commenting, because if I answer everything again, the discussion will just go on and on and I don’t see that it will go anywhere or benefit us in any way. God bless you!
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Your apology is not necessary but you obviously do not know or understand what a discussion is. A discussion is meant to go back and forth in which parties exchange ideas about a given subject but you do not want to exchange ideas. You want me to just agree with your ideas and submit to the way you think but that’s not a discussion, that’s dictating. So yes, you are correct… with an attitude like yours – one that is extremely prejudice; this discussion will not benefit us in any way.
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I was close to losing faith because of some of the same issued that lead you to this research.
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Paul never mentioned a ‘hell.’ Furthermore he said anyone teaching another gospel is condemned. You’ll not find a scripture that proves God created a ‘hell’ to torture people forever. In the beginning God created in his image: both positive and negative. Isaiah 45:7. It takes both poles of polarity to empower, create or light up anything. If God created good and evil, life and death, then what is the polar opposite of ‘heaven.’ It is ‘earth’ my friend. God is a consuming fire. Research all the ways ‘fire’ is used in the bible. One can go to biblehub dot come and type in words like ‘flames, smoke, fire,’ etc and study to prove or disprove what religion has taught us. The KJV was rendered in the 16th century to agree with established doctrines, those Paul warned about with tears before his death. The religious leaders wanted to maintain their ‘power,dominion and authority’ over the people. The truth sets one free from all religious authorities. Matt 23:8-10. Those who have the Holy Spirit are all taught by that spirit and that spirit is the Lord himself. 2 Cor 3:17.
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Dear “Real Gospel Of Christ”: For what it’s worth, I’m grateful for your bold replies in confronting this terrible hell crap. I have suffered a great deal because of this stuff, and also because of people’s sickening “visions”. Many thanks for all your articles that you have written on your site, explaining things.
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You along with thousands of people all over the world have suffered and continue to suffer from the damnable teaching of eternal torture in hell. What I find interesting is that even in the face of countless truths and contradictions with the hell doctrine, many people still believe it is the word of God. I too have suffered from this Christian terrorism and it is one of many reasons why I left the church. Having gained the knowledge and wisdom to know that hell is a lie, I feel obliged to share this “good news” with the world. I thankful that this site has helped you and I appreciate your comments…
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I thought from aged 16 I was going to Hell, for most of twenty years. I had mental breakdowns over this. I envied none believers who were not suffering like I was. I was convinced I commited blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which I didn’t, but that’s because a misunderstanding of scripture.
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Hi, I don’t know exactly where to start on this whole thing. But I will do my best to keep it simple and short.
For the past weeks I have been thinking a lot about what hell is. I had a quite bad conversation with an atheist friend of mine and it produced some thinking in me that has been really disturbing.
I grew up going to church, and yes, they teach that hell is real. However I don’t remember being told that their would be eternal torture for me if I didn’t believe, although I do remember that I prayed often and was worried what would happen if I died and if I wasn’t a true Christian. I still believe that hell is real (or hades), but I am starting to define it differently than what is the traditional Christian way of defining it. Like, since God is loving then it really doesn’t add up that He will torture someone for eternity.
Some years ago my grandfather and two other relatives were talking about hell, and I remember my grandfather saying that hell is not a place for eternal torture, because the Bible talks about people perishing, being destroyed. I.e. people who don’t believe, that they will just not be anymore. So basically annihilation for people who don’t put their trust in Jesus and His sacrifice for us. And my grandfather said that he doesn’t want to hear a word about hell when people are sharing the gospel, because it is supposed to be GOOD news, and there is nothing good about hell.
So far I have not read everything that you have written, but I have a few questions that likely either a yes or no, or one phrase answer will be a good enough answer. At least for some of them.
1. As I have read parts of your page, I started thinking whether you claim that eventually everyone, whether they trust in Jesus or not, will be reconciled with God and be in His presence. Like, do you think that after the thousand year reign, that even people like Hitler, who don’t seem to have regretted their actions or put their trust in Jesus that they will be with God? Or will they, just like any of us, face judgment according to the works, and then depending on our foundation, if it is Christ, then Jesus went through our judgment for us, and if the foundation is ourselves or anything other that Christ, then they will receive the judgment and perish (not everlasting torture, but destruction)?
My problem with the teaching that everyone will eventually be saved, that everyone will eventually be forgiven, is that what is the difference between a saved person and a lost person while we are on this earth? Will there be any difference in God’s presence? Why didn’t God just send Jesus right away to die for us and return etc. so that there wouldn’t be all this suffering in the world, and people would be reconciled?
And on this question of eternal and everlasting, or for ages and ages. Are you saying that everyone will be with God forever, since God is immortal and then there must be an age after age after age (never ending) or will human beings stop ‘being around’ after a specific amount of time? Like, I saw somewhere that you mentioned something about ‘age-bound’ or something, can’t remember the term right now.
I hope this aren’t toooooo confusing questions. At the moment my brain is a bit overheated I think, concerning this whole subject and I honestly don’t know what to believe on this. Although I know that God is forgiving and loving, I know that He is a righteous God, yes, Jesus’ sacrifice is sufficient for all of humankind, but we have to accept the gift in order to receive it. Just like we must accept to be pardoned in a court. If we reject it, and take the judgment on ourselves, which would be death/destruction, and not eternal torture, would we then really want to spend eternity with God after having rebelled against him? Like, I mean, although I am not convinced to agree with you that the story of the rich man and Lazarus is a parable, I don’t think it affects the point with my question, but why is it then that the rich man only asks for a drop of water to sooth his pain, and not to be forgiven and accept Jesus’ gift of salvation, or why doesn’t Abraham say something about them meeting again after this torment/punishment, that God will reconcile them again. (This is only a question if you are claiming that eventually everyone will be reconciled with God and live with Him for ages and ages).
I have never come across such teaching before, although I have heard the term universalism before and people saying they don’t believe in hell. But I’ll give you that that your arguments are really convincing, at least for the non existence of hell, as an eternal torture i.e. It just hadn’t crossed my mind how contradicting it is to the nature of God, I have always believed, and still do believe, that God is allowed to do whatever He wants, and it will always be loving and righteous and just, even though we maybe don’t understand it or agree. But eternal torture does really seem to contradict God’s nature.
I will likely read more on this page in the next few days, I think I am approx. Half way through your series. Some things I find reasonable or at least worth being considered, while other things don’t seem to make fully sense to me.
Thank you for taking your time to read this, and hopefully to respond. 🙂
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Hello Chris and thanks for commenting… your questions are not at all unfamiliar to me as I get many questions concerning this idea that God is the savior of all mankind. Unfortunately, I also get a lot of questions based on assumptions that are just not true. I do believe that there will be a time when everyone past present and future will be reconciled back to God but to suggest that this will happen apart from being subjected to the rule of Christ is something I do not support. Based on your comment, you seem to think that a person can just put their trust in Christ without any godly intervention. That is simply not the case… There is NO person that can just come to Christ on their own free will. God must first draw a person to Christ (John 6:44) and then it is God in the first place that gives people the faith necessary to believe anyway (Ephesians 2:8). Once a person is drawn to Christ, it is God that works continually in that person to WILL and to do God’s good work (Philippians 2:13). So why is it that Christians by the millions think that they can supersede the power of God by putting their trust in Christ? Answer, Christians do not put their trust in Christ, they put their trust in “religion” because it is this doctrine of man’s religion that has provided Christians with an escape from their own pagan hell coupled with the promise of everlasting bliss in some physical magical kingdom called “heaven”.
Listen, you will never understand any of this as long as you hold on to these terrible man-made creeds that do nothing but glorify men. I get asked questions about Hitler all the time and I guess its because he represents pure evil although I could argue that in the face of eternal torture, at least Hitler let his victims die. Hitler will rise in the resurrection to judgment to be judged but judgment is a good thing. Judgement produces change and the prophet Isaiah spoke well when he proclaimed that when God’s judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS… (Isaiah 26:9). Romans 9 tells us that God is a potter and He makes vessels of honor (the righteous) and vessels of dishonor (the wicked). Nobody can resist the will of God and it is necessary for there to be good people and bad people in this earthly life of having knowledge of good and evil. This is all a part of God’s purpose and God has purposed mankind to experience of life of travails (suffering) but this is only temporary.
Everlasting destruction is yet another Christian heresy for once again, the word “everlasting” is not a properly translated word. Why would God resurrect Hitler from the state of destruction only to send him back to everlasting destruction? Why not just leave him there? Destruction or to be “destroyed” is the same as perishing or one losing their life i.e. death. Do you realize that even the righteous perish (Isaiah 57:1)?
There is NO such thing as a “saved” past tense person in this life. Believers have hope and the assurance of salvation but eventual salvation takes place in the resurrection when death is defeated. Accepting Jesus Christ into your heart doesn’t make you or anyone saved. Jesus Christ didn’t convert not a single person in his earthly life. He recruited disciples but they were just as carnal minded as anybody. Peter wasn’t actually spiritually converted until later well after the death of Christ.
You need to stop thinking that God’s agenda needs to submit to your line of thinking and figure out how to align your thinking with God’s agenda. God is not calling all of humanity to the salvation that is in Christ during this evil age. God is only calling out His elect few that will reign with Christ to serve as ambassadors to Christ in the government of God. In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul tells us that ALL will be made alive in Christ but each man in his own ORDER. In regards to understanding the ages, God is not bound by time but humans are as mortals. However, mankind will exist forever with God regardless of what age it is because mankind will be imparted with immortality.
Let me ask you this… are there any kind of gifts that can be given to a person that doesn’t require acceptance on the part of the person? I ask because this “you must accept Christ crap” independently of God is one of the biggest heresies in all of Christianity. Is “life” a gift? Did you get to choose to be born? Scripture tells us that Jesus Christ is the propitiation for the sins of the world yet Christians do not believe that the death of Christ was a sufficient atonement for sin. Christians have added a prerequisite which includes “accepting” Jesus’ sacrifice. So essentially, in order for the Son of God’s death to have merit, mortal men must first believe and accept it. This is heresy… Jesus died for the ungodly and not for those that put their trust in him. There is NO person that can reject Christ if God doesn’t allow it. Do you think Paul had a choice when confronted with the majesty of Jesus Christ who has been given all authority in heaven and in earth? Most people would submit easily to an earthly king yet we are talking about the King of kings… If a person does reject God, it is because God has left that person in their state of having a hardened heart. God sends forth lying spirits, strong delusion, he subjects entire nations to blindness (spiritually), and He also allows a devil to the deceive the whole world.
I’m sure you will have more questions and I tried to summarize some of the information from my articles. I hope I was able to clear some things up for you…
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I don’t want to assumed a positioned of arrogance but I have been sought by God. I don’t know how to explain. I am here, so that’s something.
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Amen. Paul never mentioned a ‘hell.’ It is a manmade doctrine to keep people in subjection to religious leaders, particularly those whom Jesus forbid: Matt 23:8-10 and that Paul himself warned about with tears before his death. Bibles weren’t printed for the public until the 16th century and the KJV was rendered to agree with established doctrines of religious authorities. We should question everything and prove them for ourselves, asking God to give us more of his wisdom and understanding which he gives to those who ask, believing. ‘Ask, seek and knock.’ The truth really does set one free. Thanks for the uplifting website!
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Do you think that “eonian life” depicts something deeper than just a time constraint? I ask because of scripures like this –
” Glorify Thy Son, that Thy Son should be glorifying Thee, according as Thou givest Him authority over all flesh, that everything which Thou hast given to Him, He should be giving it to them, even life eonian. Now it is eonian life that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Him Whom Thou dost commission, Jesus Christ.” John 17:2-3 concordant
According to this verse, He has authority over “all Flesh” and He should (probalby means shall or will) be giving them (all flesh) eonian life.
I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.
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According to biblehub the word owlam does not appear 439 times but 208 times.
When i searched for judges: 2:1 on there it didn’t use the word “‘ō·w·lām” but the word “lō”.
ō·w·lām is Strong’s Hebrew 5769
lō is strong’s hebrew 3808.
What is your explaination?
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Please reference a link that supports your claim that owlam appears 208 times according to Biblehub? I just went on there and it said 438 so I’m not sure what you are referencing. The KJV also indicates that owlam is referenced 439 times in that translation according to BlueLetterBible. During your search, did you pay attention to the fact that you might be referencing scripture from a different bible translation presumably the NASB? Did you notice that “owlam” is right below the word “lo” with an arrow pointing up towards the word “lo”? Owlam is a noun and lo is an adverb so lo cannot replace owlam. Since the KJV and NASB were sourced from two different Hebrew texts there are obviously going to be differences in the use and translation of words.
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My bad, I didn’t notice the difference between Englishman’s concordance and concordance in the hebrew in the box next to it. Can you answer my question I posted below? Thanks for answering I appreciate it!
“Everlasting or eternal is a terrible translation of the Hebrew word `owlam”
what about the titel “yahweh el owlam” in genesis 21:33. How could that be translated any other way than eternal? it cetainly can’t be god of the age??
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No problem and I’d be happy to answer your other question.
God can certainly be called “the everlasting God” if we are just using plain words but, the word “everlasting” is not a biblical word. If whatever Hebrew or Greek word is defined to mean everlasting it must mean everlasting every time it is found. It is clear from dozens of scriptures that “owlam” can’t mean everlasting therefore it can never mean everlasting. Scripture is supposed to agree and compliment other scriptures not contradict it. Calling God the “everlasting God” is of little consequence but when Christianity adds the same word everlasting to literal physical fire then we have a doctrine of severe consequence. Biblical usage is how we determine the best way to define biblical words and not through the religious biases and traditions of men. Now, you have stated that God can’t be considered the God of the age but why not? Was God the God of that age or was He not? That age has ended so it would be silly for God to be the God of an age that has already come to its end. Is God the God of this present age? I think so, so if God is the God of multiple ages, why can’t He be called the God of the ages or more appropriately, the Eonian God? Where did ages come from? God created the ages. An age is a period of time with a beginning and an end. God isn’t bound by the ages because God doesn’t die. So it would be perfectly fine to call God the God of the ages! In every age, God is God, the Eonian God… He is the God of the ages! Take a look a Psalm 90:1-2;
Lord, You have been our dwelling place in all generations. Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.
Now what in the world does “everlasting to everlasting” mean? How many everlastings are there? If there is more than one everlasting, then the previous everlasting must end before the current everlasting can begin but this is clearly square circles logic. I cannot believe that they actually printed that phrase in the bible. It defies even the lowest levels of common sense. The context is clear from Psalm 90:1 that this is in reference to ALL GENERATIONS. Generations have beginnings and ends. It doesn’t matter what generation it is God is still God. I hope this helps your understanding…
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“Everlasting or eternal is a terrible translation of the Hebrew word `owlam”
what about the titel “yahweh el owlam” in genesis 21:33. How could that be translated any other way than eternal? it cetainly can’t be god of the age??
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Thank you so much for posting EVERYTHING that you have. The feeling of liberty that I am experiencing is indescribable. I was brought up into false doctrine and kept being drawn to what was “familiar” in my search for Truth. I kept getting caught up in one false doctrine after the next in my journey and today I can finally say that I am NOW receiving the Truth revealed to me. So many things weren’t sitting well with me to such a level of uncomfortability that literally made me feel sick and uneasy inside and I’ve cried many nights to God begging Him to reveal Himself to me but even then not understanding how He Truly works & I still have tons more to understand. So far I’ve only read all 4 parts of exposing the doctrine of hell. So I’m super excited to read your other articles. I hope you publish books on every falsely doctrinated subject. I am so full of Joy that God has lead me to knowing Him Truly and removing the darkness from my heart and mind. I have tons still to be filtered out of me but I have hope, joy, and faith that the cleansing power of His Truth will deliver me from the evils of my heart that were fed by false doctrine. I look forward to reading more!
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You are the reason why this site exists! I was just like you stuck in a state of fear and confusion trying to embrace a God while also trying reconcile any reasonable logic to Christianity’s hell. Turns out, hell is probably the most unreasonable and illogical doctrine ever invented and once I realized the truth, I was compelled to share God’s truth with as many people as possible. I will return to writing once a get past this rough season I’ve been trust into in my personal life. To God be the glory! Thanks for commenting…
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It appears to me that the covenants spoken of in Jer.31:31 and 32:40 are one and the same. This covenant is yet future and will be an everlasting covenant. These verses don’t conflict.
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The covenant will not be everlasting it is eonian or age-abiding. The Hebrew word “owlam” cannot be translated as the English word “everlasting” and we can be sure of this because the word everlasting has a sure meaning. Everlasting means lasting for ever and there are scriptures that use “owlam” in which we know that the item of question didn’t last for ever such as in Leviticus 16:34;
And this shall be an everlasting (Hebrew – “owlam”) statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the Lord commanded Moses.
Our sins are already forgiven because of what Christ did and He ended that statute proving that that particular statute was not everlasting at all but eonian or age-abiding.
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This has certainly given me a different perspective. I was raised Catholic so I was taught of Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. I had been struggling with the doctrine of Hell for a long time. I couldn’t understand how God in his infinite Love would send His creation to be tortured and tormented for all of eternity.
I had so many questions. I would sit and think, “Couldn’t he just allow them to end? If the punishment had to be eternal, why not just let them end?”
I would think, “At some point, wouldn’t they have suffered enough for their sins? How can one be tormented for eternity for the things done in one measly, mortal life?”
“How could the gospel then be Good News of Salvation when it came with the threat of torture for not accepting it? Especially when it is preached to people whose religions didn’t have this threat in the first place”
“Wouldn’t people then only accept this message out of the fear of torture rather than a desire to know and be with God?”
I come from a country where Christianity was spread through colonialism and fear. So these questions were extra important to me.
Being taught that purgatory was a place where those who had died in the friendship of God but still had sin would be purified. I couldn’t understand why others could not also be purified.
Believing the doctrine of Hell made it hard to believe in God’s infinite Love. God loves you but will send you to an eternity of torment. Does he still love those being tormented forever? Especially since I, as a human in my limited and flawed human capacity for love, could not fathom allowing or sending a person I loved to eternal torture. Why then would God, whose love is so much more vast than mine, send his creation, his children to an eternity of torment?
I was plagued by this and couldn’t reconcile the teachings. When I raised these questions at Church or even to proselytisers who approached me on the street, the answer was always to not ask.
Reading your teaching gives me a renewed sense of hope. Thank you for this.
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You are welcome!
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hi brother the sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiven in this age, the age that they were in was the (jewish age… it ended in 70ce) and the age to come (our age now) and so during the thousand year reign (the age to come) is the judgment when all the wicked will be ressurected and judged… Mathew 24 is about the end of the jewish age ended in 70 ce… We are in the second age the third age is the thousand year reign then the 4th is when Yeshua hands it back to his father… can you tell me what you think about this bro!!!
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You said the age to come is our age now, then you said the thousand year reign was also the age to come but in the context of what Jesus said in regards to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, he only speaks of 2 ages. This age and the age to come. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in the next age because the people guilty of it will still be dead and in the grave awaiting the resurrection to judgment. In the resurrection to judgment which is after the 1,000 year reign of the saints, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will be forgiven.
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