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  1. Do you have any thoughts on John 1:7? I’m fairly new at word studies, using Lexicons and a Concordance. I must admit, it is a little frustrating. This is how the verse reads – (YLT)”7 this one came for testimony, that he might testify about the Light, that all might believe through him;”
    My question is about the word might and if that is a good translation of the greek word. It’s Strongs #1410 and the definition is – to be able, to have power – which doesn’t seem to work with the way in which it is being used in this scripture (as in perhaps). In addition, the word is used twice in the verse, once concerning John’s testimony and the second concerning the all believing. Again the word might being used for John’s testimony seems out of place. We know John did testify. Was there a possibility that he could have chosen not to? I don’t think so.

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    1. The word “might” is NOWHERE found in the original Greek in John 1:7. Click on this link, and take a look at the Greek interlinear for John 1:7… https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/1/7/t_conc_998007
      Notice that the word in question here is “believe” or Strong’s G4100 “pisteuō”. The word “might” was added and bible translators often added these kind of “helping verbs” such as might, could, should, would, etc. but they don’t always help as in this case. It is a deceptive little tactic… There are dozens of translations that do not include the word might in John 1:7 at all such as these just to quote a few…

      John 1:7 who came to tell people about the light, so that all should hear the message and believe. (Good News Translation)

      John 1:7 He came to tell people about the Light. Through him all people could hear about the Light and believe. (International Children’s Bible)

      John 1:7 John came to declare the truth about the light so that everyone would become believers through his message. (Names of God Bible)

      John 1:7 He came to tell people the truth about the Light so that through him all people could hear about the Light and believe. (New Century Version)

      So the question now is, why in the world would bible translators do something like this? Well, by adding the word “might” it implies the possibility of a “might NOT” which is totally erroneous. All will believe in their proper timing… You see, the world of Christianity doesn’t want God to save the whole world so in order for them to trick people into believing their religious garbage, they tell lies. The primary lie they teach is that man has “free will” and it is this “free will” that man must exercise in order to save himself from some pagan hell of torture by choosing to accept Christ. Since they believe that nonsense, they must add words like might because without their “might”, their free will theory doesn’t work. If all people will eventually hear and believe God’s message, there is no might to it… God does what He says He is going to do… Remember the words of the prophet Isaiah… Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it. (Isaiah 46:11)

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      1. Hi Sulaiman,
        I have just found your site & have been reading a lot of the discussions. I am inclined to agree with your views thus far.
        Question: I see that you do not refer to yourself as a Christian. What do you call yourself now if you do not associate with that title?

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      2. I don’t really call myself anything but there is nothing wrong with the title “Christian” per se for it is nothing but another name for a disciple of Christ. Ironically enough, there is virtually NOTHING about Christianity that is “Christ-like” so the title most people associate themselves with is actually a misnomer. I embrace the title of “Universalist” more so than “Christian” but even with the title, I don’t go around proclaiming to be a universalist.

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  2. I would like to share my article, which I wrote apporximately 3 years ago, which addresses the issue of “eternal torment” in “Hellfire.”

    ………. What is the “GOOD NEWS” of the Gospel of Christ? ……….
    (Re-examining the widely held belief of “eternal torment” in “Hellfire”)

    I have been somewhat hesitant in writing this article. However, one evening this week, I sat down at my computer and opened up Word Document and keyed in the title of this article. At that point, I stopped. I was unsure if I really wanted to write this article. Within the hour, something took place that confirmed to me that the Lord was letting me know that I was to continue writing this article. The Lord confirmed this to me in such a way that the odds would have been astronomical that it was by chance.

    It has been a few weeks since I wrote this article. I have decided to share what took place on the evening of 05/14/2014.

    As I explained in the above paragraph, on 05/14/2014, I sat down at my computer and opened up Word Document and keyed in the title “What is the “GOOD NEWS” of the Gospel of Christ?” At that point, I stopped. I was unsure if I really wanted to write this article. I then went into the bedroom and began watching TV. Sometime within that hour, as I was clicking onto different channels, I clicked onto one of the Christian TV stations. At that “exact second,” the words “what is the Good News?” came forth from a Pastor’s mouth. Those were the very 1st words spoken at the “exact second” that I tuned in to that TV station. Those are the exact 1st five words in the title of my article. At that point, I thought to myself, “WOW, WOW, WOW, okay Lord, I will write the article.”

    I have timed a number of times of how many seconds it takes to say “what is the Good News?” It takes 2 seconds. If I had just been 2 seconds later in clicking onto that TV station, I would have missed hearing those words. If I had been even 2 seconds earlier in clicking onto that TV station, I probably would have heard a couple of words spoken by that Pastor before he spoke the words “what is the Good News?”

    I tuned in at the “exact second” that the words “what is the Good News?” came forth from this Pastor’s mouth.

    The odds are astronomical that it would be by chance for the order of events to take place in the way in which they did that evening. That evening, the Lord was confirming to me to write this article. The Lord did this in such a way, that I was in total amazement at what transpired that evening. 6 weeks later, I am still amazed

    I was a Christian for 38 years before the Lord opened up my Spiritual understanding to see more clearly some Biblical truths that I had not properly understood in regards to the finished work of Christ on the Cross.

    It is very likely that most Christians, including myself, have at some point and time in their innermost being have thought to themselves, “Is God, who created the human race for the purpose of having eternal fellowship with “Him,” really going to sentence the majority of the human race to suffer “eternal torment” in “Hellfire?” Well, I guess so, because that is what the Bible says!” Well, let us examine the “Scriptures” in the Bible very carefully and see if we are really being told that there really is going to be “eternal torment” in “Hellfire.”

    In the 2nd chapter of Luke we are told that there were some shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night, when suddenly, an angel of the Lord appeared to them and said to them:“Fear not: for, behold, I bring you “Good News” of great joy, which is for (ALL) people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David, a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.”

    There is a widespread belief in the Church today that the smaller portion of the human race will be saved and inherit eternal life with Christ, while the larger portion of the human race will be “condemned” to “eternal torment” & “eternal separation” from God.

    If that is indeed the case, it is beyond all comprehension to me as to why the proclamation was made that the birth of Christ the Saviour is “Good News” of great joy for (ALL) people, if still even after the birth of Christ the Saviour and “His” sacrificial death on the Cross for the human race, that the larger portion of the human race is still going to be “condemned” to “eternal torment” & “eternal separation” from God.” Does that sound like“Good News” for (ALL) people?

    We need to examine much more carefully what the Written Word of God “declares” concerning the “Good News” of the Gospel of Christ and the finished work of Christ on the Cross. After all, there is “NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT” than “our eternal destination!”

    The Church today claims to be proclaiming the ”Good News” of the Gospel of Christ, and yet, the most important part of the message of the “Good News” of the Gospel of Christ “is not being proclaimed today” by the Church, because today’s Church has not understood how PROFOUND the finished work of Christ on the Cross really is.

    It seems that God had fellowship with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden quite frequently, maybe even on a daily basis before they sinned.“EACH” & “EVERY” human being has been created for the purpose of having fellowship with God for all eternity. This “has always” been the plan of God from even before the creation of all things. “His” plan “cannot be changed,” because God “PRE-DETERMINED” our fellowship with “Him” for all eternity from before the creation of all things. God “Himself” tells us that it “cannot be changed,” because “HE” tells us in Malachi 3:6 – “I am the Lord, I change not;”

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for God’s “PRE-DETERMINED” plan for the entire human race to fail. “To attribute failure to God” is of the “highest insult” to our Creator!

    We are told in 2 Peter 3:9 that the Lord is not willing that any should perish. In the Greek translation, the word “willing” means “intend.” (i.e. – The Lord “does not intend” for any to perish.) What a HUGE difference this makes in giving us a proper understanding of the actual meaning of this Passage of “Scripture.”

    Lamentations 3:31 – “For the Lord will not cast off forever.” (i.e. reject, forsake, abandon) This verse is very clear in communicating to us God’s promise that NO ONE will be separated from “Him” for all eternity.

    The Bible reveals to us the Father’s heart. The Cross reveals to us the Father’s “indescribable love” for us,“His” creation.

    God did not create the human race, to then only wind up rejecting and abandoning the majority of the human race to total abandonment from “Him” for all eternity.

    Philippians 2:10-11 is one of the most “PROFOUND” Passages of “Scripture” in the Bible. “That at the name of JESUS every knee will bow, of things in heaven, and things on earth, and things under the earth: And that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

    There is absolutely nowhere in this Passage of “Scripture” that states or even suggests that every knee will be “FORCED” to bow the knee to the name of JESUS. In all religions, bowing the knee is a“voluntary” form of worship. As explained in the next several paragraphs, we will come to understand more clearly that Philippians 2:10-11 is revealing to us that bowing the knee and confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord, is not going to be forced upon (ALL), but that (ALL) will do so willingly. Throughout the Bible, we find that the “Scriptures” clearly state that GOD “only accepts a willing heart.”

    A word study of “confess” (ἐξομολογήσεται) in the Greek language (in light of the way that this same verb is used in other New Testament “Scriptures”) reveals that this verb in the context of this Passage of “Scripture” is rendered “to thank.” That meaning growing out of the sense of open, joyful acknowledgement. The sense here is that of frank, open confession.

    An individual cannot praise and joyously proclaim that Jesus Christ is Lord, “if one is being forced to do so,” Especially, if that individual knows that “eternal damnation” & “eternal separation” from God awaits them. It is just that simple!

    The traditional teaching on this Passage of “Scripture” has been that even the enemies of the Cross will be forced to bow their knee and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. This train of thought is in complete “contradiction” to the Written Word of God, because the Bible from Genesis to Revelation “clearly teaches” that the Lord “only accepts” praise and worship “from a willing heart.” “Forced praise and worship” DOES NOT bring Glory to God.

    In Philippians 2:10-11, God “IS NOT” proclaiming that all those who have not known Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, “are going to be forced” to bow their knee and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    “ON THE CONTRARY,” God is proclaiming to us an “astonishing” & “profound” revelation, that because of the finished work of Christ on the Cross, that (ALL) will come to know Jesus Christ in such a way that (ALL) “will willingly” (not be forced) acknowledge openly with praise, and proclaim joyously that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    The “true meaning” of Philippians 2:10-11 has been “greatly overlooked” by the Church today!

    There can be little doubt that after the Millennial Kingdom reign of Christ and “His” Saints on earth, that Christ is going to give all enemies of the Cross, and “each” and “every person” who did not have the Gospel of Christ presented to them, a PROFOUND revelation of what “HE” did for them on the Cross which was done out of “His” indescribable love for them.

    When the Bible speaks of “Hellfire,” it is just simply a “metaphorical expression.” “Hellfire” is not going to “produce physical suffering to the lost” (lost – those without Christ). Rather, the lost are going to experience “Spiritual grief,” because of the refining FIRE of God’s Spirit. Malachi 3:2 – “The Lord is like a refiner’s fire.”

    The “completion” of this mighty work of God is going to produce a PROFOUND revelation of what Christ did for them on the Cross. The results of this revelation to them will probably burn in them to such a degree, that it will probably produce an agony of great joy in them beyond comprehension, which will cause them to fall down to their knees, and with great joy and praise from the innermost part of their being,“proclaim openly” that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    We are given another “PROFOUND” Passage of “Scripture” in Luke 3:6, which states: “AND ALL FLESH SHALL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD.” The King James translation has every word in this Passage of “Scripture” in capital letters. This apparently is for the purpose of wanting the readers to take special notice of this Passage of “Scripture,” because it is proclaiming something that is quite PROFOUND.

    A word study of “see” in the Greek language reveals that one of the definitions of “see” can mean “to experience; to become a partaker of.” Because of the way that this Passage of “Scripture” is constructed, it is very reasonable to believe that this is the true meaning of “see” in this Passage of “Scripture.”

    A better rendering of this Passage of “Scripture” would read: “AND ALL FLESH SHALL EXPERIENCE AND BECOME PARTAKERS OF GOD’S SALVATION.”

    NOTE: At some point and time in the future, the above Passage of “Scripture” will be fulfilled. This will all be worked out in God’s ETERNAL plan for man.

    The “GOOD NEWS” of the Gospel of Christ is the “RECONCILIATION” of (ALL) things back to God through the finished work of Christ on the Cross.

    Colossians 1:20 – And God was pleased for Christ to make peace by sacrificing “His” blood on the Cross, so that all beings in heaven and on earth would be brought back to God.

    Colossians 1:26 – This is the “mystery” which has been hidden from ages past and from generations, but now has been revealed to “His” Saints.

    I Corinthians 15:22 tells us “For as in Adam (ALL) die, even so in Christ shall (ALL) be made alive.” Once again, take special note that (ALL) shall be made alive in Christ. What is important to understand is that God has a purpose and plan for (ALL). At the 2nd coming of Christ, the Millennial Kingdom reign of Christ will begin in which “He” and the Saints who have overcome (overcoming Saints – 2nd & 3rd Chapters of Revelation) will rule and reign here on earth.

    At some point and time after the 1000 year rule and reign of Christ and the Saints here on earth, “everyone else” through the “refining fire” of God’s Spirit, will be reconciled back to God because of the finished work of Christ on the Cross. This was the plan of God from the very beginning of creation. This is what the”GOOD NEWS” of the gospel of Christ is all about.

    I Corinthians 15:26 tells us “The last enemy to be destroyed is death.” (i.e.- the last enemy to be destroyed is separation from God.) (ALL) will be “reconciled” back to God. Yes, even the fallen angels. God did not create multitude upon multitude of angels and then think to “Himself,” “When I created the Angels, I did know that a large number of them would rebel against ME.”

    Also, God did not create man in “His” own image and then think to “Himself,” “When I created the human race, I did not know that the majority of the human race would rebel against me to the point that the majority of the human race will have to endure “everlasting torment” & “everlasting separation” from ME.”

    God already knew before “HE” created the human race, that multitudes of people would die without being presented with the Gospel of Christ, therefore, missing out on the opportunity to make Christ their Lord and Saviour. Also, God already knew that the majority of the human race would become enemies of the Cross. Are we to believe that God would still have made the decision to create the human race, if “HE” already knew that the majority of the human race would be “condemned” to suffer “everlasting torment” & “everlasting separation” from “Him?” I THINK NOT !!!

    Are we to believe that God who created us to bring Glory to “Him,” is such a failure that “HE” is left with no choice but to “condemn” the majority of the human race to “everlasting torment” & “everlasting separation” from “Him,” which will not only bring NO Glory to “Him,” but to the contrary, will only highlight “His” failure in “His” original purpose for creating us? I THINK NOT !!!

    Also, I would like to address the issue of “annihilation.” There are those who do not agree with the common belief of unsaved people eventually burning in “Hellfire” for all eternity, or experiencing some other type of “eternal torment,” but their belief is that unsaved people will eventually be “annihilated” and exist no more.

    This belief cannot be correct, because we are told in Ecclesiastes 3:11 – “He” has made everything beautiful in it’s time. “He” also has planted “eternity” in men’s hearts and minds.” (a divinely planted sense of a purpose working through the ages). God created us as “eternal beings.” Our eternal Spirit “CANNOT be destroyed.” Remember, God made us after “His” own image!

    THE PROFOUND FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY TODAY’S CHURCH!

    God from the very beginning had a plan and purpose for all creation. “HE” already knew how things would turn out. “HE” made no mistakes. In past ages, God’s plan and purposes were unfolding and being worked out. In this present age, God’s plan and purposes are unfolding and being worked out. In future ages, God’s plan and purposes will continue to unfold and be worked out.

    There are multitude upon multitude of families who have prayed for the salvation of their loved ones, only to see them die without knowing Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

    Even though they will not take part in the 1st Resurrection, and rule and reign with Christ and the Saints (Saints who have overcome) during the Millennial Kingdom Age, we can take great comfort in knowing that “at some point and time” after the Millennial Kingdom reign of Christ and the Saints who have overcome, that “EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM” will live for all eternity under the perfect conditions of the New Heavens and New Earth.

    This is what the “GOOD NEWS” of the Gospel of Christ is all about, the “RECONCILIATION” of (ALL) back to God, through the finished work of Christ on the Cross.

    The finished work of Christ on the Cross “made provision” for the “REDEMPTION” of (ALL), “WITHOUT EXCEPTION.”

    The very last words of JESUS on the Cross before “His” last breath were, “IT IS FINISHED!” Those 3 words will “ECHO” into ALL ETERNITY. Those 3 words PROCLAIMED the final destination of (ALL) being “RECONCILED” back to God. From even before the creation of all things, the “RECONCILIATION” of (ALL) back to God through the “SHED BLOOD” of Christ on the Cross “has always” been our Creator’s plan.

    In John 12:32, JESUS “declares to us” that “HE” will draw (ALL) people unto “Himself” (Note: “each in their own time”)

    We are told in Colossians 1:16 that all things created in heaven, and on earth, visible and invisible, were created for God’s Glory. This is why that it is “IMPOSSIBLE” for any part of God’s creation “to remain” in “an inglorious condition” for “ALL OF ETERNITY.” In due time, in the Ages to come, (ALL) of God’s creation will bring Glory to God as was pre-ordained by God before the creation of all things.

    The Bible “message” SCREAMS OUT God’s plan of “ETERNAL SALVATION” FOR (ALL). (Note: “each in their own time”)

    JESUS “declares to us” in John 6:44, that nobody can come to “Him” except the Father “draws them” to “Him!” It is “IMPOSSIBLE” for anyone to come to JESUS and surrender their lives to JESUS, without the “working drawing power” of the Holy Spirit.

    You see, there is no individual that is “more special than another individual” as to cause the Lord to draw that individual through the“working drawing power” of “His” Holy Spirit to surrender their lives to JESUS, thereby, saving that individual from “eternal torment” & “eternal separation” from “Him,” but then sentences another individual to “eternal torment” & “eternal separation” from “Him,” who never had the“working drawing power” of the Holy Spirit drawing them to surrender their lives to JESUS.

    As I have stated before in this article, Luke 3:6 “declares to us” that (ALL) will come to know the Lord, “each” in their own time according to God’s eternal plan for the Ages. Luke 3:6 – “ALL FLESH SHALL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD.”

    I shared earlier in this article that a word study of “see” in the Greek language reveals that one on the definitions of “see” can mean “to experience; to become partaker of.” Because of the way that this Passage of “Scripture” in constructed, it is very reasonable to believe that this is the true meaning of “see” in this Passage of “Scripture.”

    A better rendering of this Passage of “Scripture” would read: “ALL FLESH SHALL EXPERIENCE AND BECOME PARTAKERS OF GOD’S SALVATION.”

    JESUS told the religious leaders (it was the religious leaders who were responsible for “His” crucifixion) that the publicans and harlots would enter the kingdom of God before them. JESUS did not say that these wicked religious leaders would not enter into the kingdom of God. JESUS was telling these wicked religious leaders that the publicans and harlots would “precede them,” go “ahead of them” in their entrance into the kingdom of God.

    Most Christians are very familiar with the Passage of “Scripture” that “declares to us” that there is coming a time when God “shall wipe away (ALL) tears,” and there shall be “no more sorrow,” and there shall be “no more pain.” This is “declared to us” by the Lord in Revelation 21:4. Revelation 21:1 gives us greater insight into what Revelation 21:4 is really “declaring to us.” Revelation 21:1 – “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away.”

    It is important for us to take “SPECIAL NOTICE” that it is after the Lord’s handiwork of a new heaven & new earth “declared to us” in verse 1, that then verse 4 “declares to us” that there will be “no more tears,” and “no more sorrow,” and “no more pain.”

    Well, since the Bible already tells us that 1000 years before a new heaven & new earth takes place, Christ is going to set up “His” Millennial Kingdom here on earth, in which “HE” and the Saints who have overcome, will rule and reign.

    The Saints will already be in their “new Glorified bodies” when they come with Christ to rule and reign with “Him.” Therefore, all their tears, and all their sorrows, and all their pain “will have already been removed from them” for (ALL) eternity. Therefore, Revelation 21:4 “is not referring” to the Saints who are already in their “new Glorified bodies,” and have been ruling and reigning with Christ throughout the “previous Millennium” which takes place “prior” to the Lord’s handiwork of a new heaven & new earth.

    That then raises the question, who is the Lord referring to in Revelation 21:4?

    Since Revelation 21:4 is “declaring to us” that (ALL) tears shall be wiped away, it becomes clear that the Lord is “declaring to us” that (ALL) in this Passage of “Scripture” is referring to the rest of humanity, beginning with Adam & Eve.

    So Revelation 21:4, along with other Passages of “Scripture” that have been shared in this article, is “declaring to us” that “not one single person” will suffer “eternal torment” & “eternal separation” from God.

    NOTE: The Book of Revelation in the Bible explains to us that after the Millennial Kingdom reign of Christ and the Saints on earth, then comes the “Great White Throne Judgment,” and then at some point and time after the “Great White Throne Judgment,” the Lord’s handiwork of a new heaven & new earth will take place.

    The “Great White Throne Judgment” will put into motion the final step in the Lord’s plan of reconciling (ALL) unto “Himself” through the finished work of Christ on the Cross.

    This will be accomplished through the “mighty burning working power of God’s Spirit” working through each individual who comes before this “Great White Throne Judgment.”

    The“Scriptures” do not reveal to us the length of time that this process will take. It is after that this process has been completed by the “mighty burning working power of God’s Spirit” in each individual who has come before the “Great White Throne Judgment,” that the Lord will do “His” handiwork of a new heaven & new earth. There will be “no more tears,” and “no more sorrow,” and “no more pain” for anyone, for (ALL) eternity.

    JESUS clearly tells us in John 12:32, that after “His” death and Resurrection, that “He” will draw (ALL) people unto “Himself” (Note: each in their own time). The “Kingdom of Darkness” has been very successful in blinding the present-day Church from seeing this “GREAT TRUTH” that JESUS so clearly tells us in this verse.

    Today’s Church is greatly lacking in it’s understanding of what our purpose of being here on earth is all about. IT IS NOT ABOUT who is going to be saved, because (ALL) will be saved (each in their own time). THIS IS ALL ABOUT the Lord proving “His” servants, because it will be only the “Servants of the Lord” who have been faithful, who will rule and reign with Christ.

    There will be many “Servants of the Lord” who will be found not to have been faithful, and therefore, they will not rule and reign with Christ. In fact, JESUS addresses this issue in some of “His” rather difficult to understand parables. I discuss this further in my article “Not “ALL” Christians / Saints will rule and reign with Christ,” which I have posted on this website.

    NOTE: The New Testament was written in the ordinary language of the common people of its day which included “idioms” that were used in their everyday language. (“idiom” – a figure of speech) In fact, every language has its own “idioms,” which really makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE when trying to come to a correct understanding of a particular Passage of “Scripture” in the Bible which contains an “idiom.” It is important for us to know that JESUS used “idioms” in “His” teachings, which were understood by the people during that period of time.

    When I first wrote this article in May of 2014, I did not have the information that is printed below. Two years later, in September of 2016, I came across the information that is below, which is published by the Pittsburg Bible Institute.

    Published by the Pittsburg Bible Institute:“The Lake of Fire and Brimstone signifies a fire burning with brimstone; the word ‘brimstone’ or sulphur defines the character of the fire. The Greek word THEION translated ‘brimstone’ is exactly the same word THEION which means ‘divine.’ (emphasis mine) Sulphur was sacred to the deity among the ancient Greeks; and was used to fumigate, to purify, and to cleanse and consecrate to the deity; for this purpose they burned it in their incense.

    In Homer’s Iliad (16:228), one is spoken of as purifying a goblet with fire and brimstone. The verb derived from THEION is THEIOO, which means to hallow, to make divine, or to dedicate to a god (See Liddell and Scott Greek-English Lexicon, 1897 Edition). To any Greek, or any trained in the Greek language, a ‘lake of fire and brimstone’ would mean a ‘lake of divine purification.’ The idea of judgment need not be excluded. Divine purification and divine consecration are the plain meaning in ancient Greek. In the ordinary explanation, this fundamental meaning of the word is entirely left out, and nothing but eternal torment is associated with it.”

    Charles Pridgeon; Is Hell Eternal, or Will God’s Plan Fail; pgs 116 & 117.

    Here, Brother Pridgeon makes a vital point: brimestone is for purification, not punishment. This thought went unquestioned until the Dark Ages. His purpose was understood to purify and consecrate, not separate and punish. This Lake of Divine Fire will purify, refine, restore and consecrate til there is nothing left that is contrary to Him.

    NOTE: I do not understand how that a Christian can read this article in it’s entirety without serious questions being raised in their mind and Spirit about the traditional teaching on “Hell,” the “Lake of Fire,” and “eternal torment” that is being taught today in the Church, and is widely accepted as “truth” by most Christians today.

    NOTE: I have saved this article in Word Document Format, which makes for much better reading. If anyone would like a copy of this article, I would be more than happy to e-mail you a copy. (candy33alan@aol.com)

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    1. The ‘sorrow, tears, pain, woes, famine, plagues, woes, beasts and death’ are those of the old covenant of death. Revelation was written to ‘bondservants’ (nation of Israel who had synagogues in every city of the Roman Empire) Rev 1:1. It was written during the tribulation. Rev 1:9.
      The time of the end was near to them. 1 Peter 4:7. The old things of the old covenant was ‘passing away.’ Heb 8:13. The 144,000 Firstfruits were from the tribes of Israel (remnant promised) gleamed during the first century. Both James and Peter referred to themselves as part of the fall harvest of firstfruits. There are two harvests, spring and fall. Jesus the firstfruit, then those who had to ‘fill up the measure of Christ’s suffering, endure till the end of the old covenant age/ainon, work out their own salvation, and be martyred for the faith,’ to be judged worthy to rule for a set period of time with Jesus ‘judging the twelve tribes of Israel.’ That all took place in the first century. ‘My kingdom does not come with your observance; it is WITHIN YOU.’ LK 17:20-24. ‘The kingdom of God is righteousness, peace and joy in the holy spirit.’ Ro 14:17.
      The bible is about a beginning and an end. The ‘age/ainon’ of the conditional covenant with the nation of Israel was ending. The Aaronic priesthood perished along with the cultus of external worship. The Melchizedek priesthood had been ruling since the old harlot was stripped of her royal authority and burnt in the fires of the Roman-Jewish war 66-70 AD. The wedding motif is simply a means to explain God reconciling with mankind via the spirit. Until reconciliation came God used mediators, middle men, prophets and the Queen who sat at the right hand of power(Aaronic priesthood) and now that we have been reconciled to our Father, we have no need of middle men. Matt 23:8-10.

      old vs new
      seen vs unseen
      flesh vs spirt
      external vs internal
      temporary vs eternal

      The ‘heaven, earth and sea’ to the Hebrews was the temple. Josephus explains in his historical accounts as the outer court being the ‘sea’ ; the inner court being the earth and the Holy of Holies being ‘heaven.’ We have a new heaven and earth now. There is no more ‘sea.’ The outer court divided the nations, unclean, women and the common people of the tribes that were not of Levi descent (Aristocracy) from entering the Holy Places in the temple. In other words they could not enter God’s presence until reconcilation came. To teach a future reconciliation denies the truth and calls Jesus a liar. He is the fullfillment of all OT prophesies. All things of the flesh, seen, external, age were types and shadows not the substance.
      The substance has come and reconciled the world to himself. Jesus didn’t come to give us another religion or false hopes ( a false prophet tells lies and his prophesies are never fulfilled) he came to reconcile us to our Father, who is spirit. Those who have the spirit of Christ have been reconciled and have him as their TEACHER. Matt 23:8-10; 2 Cor 3:17.

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  3. There is a big difference between ” the dead did not live again” and “the dead lived not until the thousand years were finished”. Truth is essential to the meaning being conveyed. It is agreed that “again” has no place in this sentence structure and conveys a wrong idea to the reader ( I urge you to research for yourself). Both the good and those who did evil come out of the memorial tombs at the same resurrection as clearly stated in John 5:28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29 and come out… It is made clear as crystal by likening this time to a figurative hour in which both classes would come out to judgement. The first resurrection class come to life at the same time together and begin to reign (judge) Revelation 20:4 who do they judge? Why it is those who come out to a resurrection of judgement . These are not alive in the fullest sense…they are like Lazarus who was resurrected ,but died again. These are still in bondage to sin and their father is the first Adam , as they have not accepted the ransom of the second Adam yet. The first resurrected group serve as priests also. Priests to intercede and behalf of whom? Well as members of Christs body they intercede on behalf of the second group. In the end of the thousand year reign they will have succeeded in bringing all to repentance i.e. to like mindedness with the first group, (the Israel of God), who have the mind of Christ. Then it will be time to hand over the Kingdom to the Father…death being done away with as all have come to life and all traits associated with the tree Adam ate from gone and replaced by the one who died figuratively on that tree ransoming the first Adam ,( and us as we came from his loins), from bondage to that tree and opening up the way for all to eat freely from the tree of life. The Branch that grew into the tree of life…It will then be all mankind’s family tree.

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    1. Victoria, you are getting way ahead of yourself making statements and judgments about me based solely on your own assumptions. I respect the fact that you have a theory you believe but do not get angry with me because I do not agree with you. You are doing the same thing as hell believers reading and interpreting the scriptures in a way that fits the theory you like. What you believe does not correlate with the gift of “aionios” life that is promised to believers and it does not correlate with Paul’s “order” of being made alive in Christ. The first resurrection and the second resurrection do NOT occur at the same time that’s why we are told that blessed and holy is he that has PART in the first resurrection… There are some that will partake in this “first resurrection” and others that will partake in the second resurrection. These two resurrection events are clearly separated by an age of time whether it is a literal or symbolic “1,000” years means little to the fact that they don’t occur at the same time. When I made the reference to the dead not living again, that was not a blanket statement for I know what the rest of the scriptures says. The people of the first resurrection are alive but there are many people that are still dead because they haven’t been resurrected yet. It’s not their order or time to be resurrected. So, the dead did not live again or they lived not until the thousand years were finished. As far as I’m concerned, it is the exact same concept… This is what I believe and as it seems you believe something a bit different, I do see that you have concluded that Jesus Christ is the Savior of all mankind and God will restore all things at the conclusion of the eons. That to me is the most important truth of all and while we may differ on a subject here and there, your little hissy fit was certainly unnecessary. You are correct in stating that I do tend to belittle when challenged with a point, however, that point is usually directed at some spiritual terrorist trying to convince me that God is going to send billions of sinners to some godless pagan torture chamber. So, I will not apologize for speaking the way I do towards those type of people but do not confuse that approach with my general attitude with everyone who has commented. You presented your arguments and I presented my own… What you have presented doesn’t align with my biblical and spiritual convictions and you certainly didn’t do a good enough job to convince me otherwise. One minute, we are in the land of the literal, then in a split second, we venture off to spiritual island so it’s hard to keep up with such inconsistency. Either way, I felt like I got the gist of what you were saying and I just don’t agree with you but what’s the problem with that? You speak in a way as if I am required to agree with you and your tirade only proves you to be guilty of the exact criticisms you directed at me. We are talking about one subject but all of sudden you accuse me of claiming to alone have all truth and discernment? You want me to submit to the will and authority of Victoria, a complete stranger that perceives me to be clay? You are a piece of work and you definitely need to get your emotions in check… It’s funny how you made no mention of the fact that I made a statement agreeing with the last part of your comment, welcomed further dialogue, and also offered to agree to disagree yet you compare me to Christendumb? I don’t think I’ll be approving anymore of your comments for debating with hypocrites is a losing battle….

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  4. Can you offer any comments on Isaiah 66:23-24? Verse 23 states- all mankind will come and bow down before Me”….. Then in verse 24 ” THEN they shall go forth and look on the corpses of men who have trangressed against Me”…… So when it says all mankind in verse 23, is this not All Mankind? I’m also curious about the mention of the worm that dieth not and the fire that is not quenched. What does that represent?

    Also, have you read Ray Smith’s article? https://bible-truths.com/towers.htm If so, what do think about it?

    As always, I really appreciate you taking time to offer your insights. May God bless you my friend!

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    1. Sure Jeff I’d be happy to make a few comments…

      All of mankind will certainly come and bow down before God when it’s all said and done but not in this instance. In order to bow down and do anything before God, you have to first be alive and at this point, there are many people that will be DEAD which speaks to the reference of the “corpses of men who have transgressed the Lord” stated in verse 24. So if 100 men are in a room and 90 of them die, and I say, all men will leave the room now. There are only 10 men alive at this point so that statement wouldn’t be applicable to the other 90 men that died…

      Jesus Christ makes a reference in Mark 9 about the same worms not dying and this same fire not being quenched. In the world of Christianity, it is believed by many, that these worms that don’t die are immortal worms and this fire that isn’t quenched is an eternal fire but that couldn’t be further from the truth. A forest fire is certainly not an “eternal fire” but it is also “not quenched”. It eventually dies out on it’s own so whatever this “fire” is, it will not be quenched until it serves its purpose. These “worms” are actually “maggots” as that is the proper rendering of the Hebrew and Greek in this context. If we have a dead body, maggots will form and then eventually they turn into flies. The flies lay more eggs creating more maggots and this cycle repeats itself and that’s why the maggots don’t die. If there are no dead bodies, there are no worms (maggots). This is all symbolic for God’s process for destroying the works of the flesh…

      I did read Ray Smith’s article on the twin towers years ago so I don’t remember that much about it to make a comment but I do remember it being very interesting and insightful.

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  5. Mathew 23:15 “15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are going about the sea and the dry land to make one proselyte, and whenever he may be becoming one, you are making him more than double a son of Gehenna than you are.”
    Can you please help me wrap my mind around what the NT means when it speaks about Gehenna. I have what you have posted on the site but I need just a little more help with this one. It’s mentioned several times in the NT. At first, I was thinking that Geheena judgement was reserved for followers of Jesus only but that wouldn’t go along with how it’s used in the verse above.

    Thank you!

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    1. Gehenna symbolizes “destruction” and Christ already new that the Jewish nation was on it’s way to being utterly destroyed which it was in 70 AD. The leaders of Jewish nation were hypocrites and blind guides so anyone they taught or brought up under their practices were twice as hypocritical and blind or “double a son of Gehenna” on the path to destruction… Gehenna judgment is reserved for followers of Christ but only because judgment first BEGINS at the house of God. The rest of the world will be judged in the future lake of fire judgment in the resurrection. Gehenna judgment, judgment by fire, the lake of fire judgment, age-lasting aionios judgement, and the second death, are ALL the same thing… They are all judgments of God on His creation.

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  6. Thanks for you answer on the last question, brother! I was hoping you could help me resolve, what seems like a tension between two sections of scripture. The first scripure is John 6:44 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
    Then the other is Acts 17: 29-30 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
    Why does he command all men to repent (turn and follow Christ) when they cannot?

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    1. No problem brother glad to help…. What you have presented in your last comment does appear to be a contradiction but only if we isolate those scriptures without understanding the whole idea the author was trying to convey. Now let me ask you this… are there any other examples in the scriptures in which God commanded mankind to do something and mankind didn’t do it? Of course there are! Virtually everything that God has commanded men to do men didn’t do it. Even the majority of the people that God chose to be His people during the Old Testament days couldn’t stay obedient. This is specifically why we need a Savior! Now, just to be clear, there is more going on in John 6:44 that needs to be explained… It is a scriptural fact that no man can come to Christ unless they are first drawn (Greek: dragged) by the Father but notice what Christ says in the last part of the scripture… “and I will raise him up at the last day”. This part is crucial to understanding how this connects to Acts 17:29-30. Let’s take a look at John 12:32;

      And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

      Christ says that He will draw ALL MEN to himself if He first is lifted up from the earth… by being lifted up from the earth, Christ is speaking about being lifted up onto the cross to die for the sins of the world. By dying for the sins of the world, Christ now has the authority to raise everyone from the grave for death is the only penalty for sin. Disobedience to the commandment (God’s law) brings forth “judgment” and Christ will judge the world in righteousness which will result in obedience to the commandments of God.

      [Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,]

      Now, the issue here is that Paul is not done with his statement… When bible makers made the bibles we read today, they added chapters and verses to make reference to certain scriptures easier, however, if we are not careful, we can leave out entire ideas sometimes without even knowing it. Notice in Acts 17:30, the scripture ends with a comma in the NKJV. I believe you quoted from the KJV and in that translation Acts 17:30 ends with a colon. Whether it is a comma or a colon the point is that Paul’s thought didn’t end in Acts 17:30. There is a reason why God is commanding all men everywhere to repent and the answer is given in the very next verse in Acts 17:31;

      God is commanding all men to repent – (Acts 17:31) BECAUSE He has appointed a “day” (same day stated in John 6:44) on which He will “judge” the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”]

      So, God has made his declarations known, but repentance (change) occurs through judgment…

      Isaiah 26:9 With my soul I have desired You in the night, Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early; For WHEN [future event in the resurrection at the last day] Your “judgments” are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

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      1. The bible explains the bible: ‘raise them up at the last day.’ ( John 6th chapter). Four times he said this and after the 4th he explains it by quoting from the Torah: ‘They will all be taught by God.’
        Being ‘raised up’ with Christ means being reconciled to our Father via the spirit. Jesus rebuked the sister of Lazarus when she said, ‘I know that he shall rise in the resurrection’ by this: ‘I AM the resurrection.’ All the old things were types and shadows not the substance. Physical resurrection was a type of the spiritual. Mankind was ‘dead’ in relationship to their Father via Adam’s sin. We needed to be reconciled and Jesus came for that purpose. Paul taught the gospel of reconciliation. 2 Cor 5: 18-24

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  7. I have recently read in a bible truths’ discussion forum that Revelations 20: 5 is spurious . It isn’t included in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts. See link. http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm
    Someone made mention that Ray Smith later came to the conlusion of one general resurrection of the dead after doing some study of this. This seems to fit better with the rest of scripture in my opinion. Any thoughts?

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    1. I am aware of the discussion of Revelation 20:5 being spurious but I don’t see how removing it changes much it regards to interpreting scripture as a whole on the topic of the resurrection. If there is a “first” resurrection, then it would be logical to assume that there is at least a second resurrection to follow at some point in time. In a track meet, there are runners and all of them complete the race in their own time. The person that reaches the finish line first is the “first” winner, right? Well isn’t it logical to assume that there is a second place winner, third, fourth, and so on? It is true that there is only one resurrection, but people experience their resurrection at different times. This correlates to the “order” that Paul spoke about in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24;

      For just as in connection with Adam all die, so in connection with the Messiah all will be made alive. But each in his OWN ORDER: the Messiah is the firstfruits; then those who belong to the Messiah, at the time of his coming; then the culmination, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father, after having put an end to every rulership, yes, to every authority and power.

      Being “made alive” is a reference to the resurrection but there are 3 resurrection events that Paul highlights… (for the purposes of this discussion, resurrection refers to being resurrected from which death no longer has any power).

      1) Jesus Christ the Messiah is the first of the firstfruit and this was actually the first real resurrection event,
      2) The elect or God’s chosen are the “firstfruits” and they will participate in the “first” resurrection event of humanity when Christ returns at the second coming, and then
      3) Lastly, the grand finale or second resurrection of humanity to judgment in which the rest of the world is saved through God’s sin purging lake of fire!

      I am not aware of any study that Ray did that suggested that there is just one general resurrection. If fact, Ray did an excellent study on the festivals of ancient Israel that was a foreshadow of how these resurrection events would unfold throughout the ages. Notice in 1 Corinthians 15:23, that Paul refers to Christ as the “firstfruit” but why do you think he used that word? A first fruit is a religious offering of the first agricultural produce of the harvest. Now read the article from L. Ray Smith below…

      THE THREE FESTIVALS AND THE SALVATION OF ALL by L. Ray Smith

      There is a beautiful type in the Old Testament that clearly demonstrates when and in what manner all these Unsaved masses will be saved. This Old Testament type is illustrated all through the New Testament, but the blind and unperceiving eyes of Christendom have for the most part failed to see it, believe it, or teach it.

      The American Heritage College Dictionary: “type n 6. A figure, representation, or symbol of something to come, such as an event in the Old Testament that foreshadows another in the New Testament,” p. 1485. There are many such types beginning back in the the first chapter of Genesis.

      Here are just two examples: The Passover in ancient Israel was a type of its true fulfillment to come in our Lord’s crucifixion, “Purge out therefore the old leaven that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened [but now speaking spiritually]. For even Christ our PASSOVER [Lamb] is sacrificed [crucified] for us ” (I Cor. 5:7). And James 1:18 clearly demonstrates the foreshadowing of the firstfruits harvest by saying: “Of His own will begat He us with the word of truth, that we should be a KIND of firstfruits [of the Spring Harvest] of His creatures [not farm products].” It is also important to note that whenever the word “first” is used, it always suggests more to follow — there is never a Spring harvest without a following Fall harvest. We will now consider three of the Old Testament types that center on the harvest seasons.

      In ancient Israel there were three times in the year when all men were to appear before God:

      THE WAVE SHEAF (Feast of Unleavened Bread and Passover): “Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf OF the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest … And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the FIRST year for a burnt offering unto the Lord” (Lev. 23:10-12).

      COMMENT: This wave sheaf of the very first of the firstfruits is a type of our Lord Who was the perfect Lamb without blemish offered in the Spring on Passover. “But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the FIRSTFRUIT of them that sleep” (I Cor. 15:20). Jesus is not the entire firstfruits but rather “the firstfruit OF them that sleep.” He is the firstfruit OF the firstfruit or more precisely the “wave sheaf OF the firstfruits.” Firstfruit is a term that pertains to agriculture and harvesting. It was never a theological term until introduced into the New Testament with regards to a small number who would be saved prior to a much larger number to be saved later.

      THE FIRSTFRUITS (Feast of Weeks): “All the best of the oil , and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the FIRSTFRUITS of them which they shall offer unto the Lord, them have I given thee … And whatsoever is FIRST RIPE in the land which they shall bring unto the Lord, shall be thine…” (Num. 18:12 & 13). “And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O Lord, has given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the Lord thy God” (Deut. 26:10).

      COMMENT: The type in the New Testament of this Old Testament symbol is the Believer. Notice what James tells us, “Of His own will begat He us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of FIRSTFRUITS of His creatures” (James 1:18). Now a very important point: How far down the road in prophecy can we go until we reach the end of the firstfruits? In Rev. 7:4-8 we read of the sealing of the 144,000. These are a different group from the great innumerable multitude, which no man could number, from every nation and tongue spoken of beginning in verse 9.

      In Chapter 14:1 & 4 we are told specifically who these 144,000 are: “And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand [notice that the innumerable multitudes from all nations is not mentioned here] … These are they which were not defiled with women, for they are virgins [as in the Bride of Christ]. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, BEING THE FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb” (Rev. 14:1 & 4). So every believer from the Apostles to the 144,000 just prior to the return of Jesus Christ to establish His reign on the earth, is called and likened to FIRSTFRUITS! So what does this have to do with the lake of fire? EVERYTHING! Everyone saved before the Day of Judging is likened to firstfruits, so there will be no more firstfruits after the white throne judgment.

      Paul tells us in Rom. 8:23, “And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit…” Nowhere do we read of the “LASTFRUITS,” but whenever something is FIRST we also know there is something to follow. Nor are there any references to any “ONLYFRUITS.” The firstfruits are clearly not the ONLY fruits! Follow this very closely now, for you are in for a big shock when you understand the type in the fall festival of Tabernacles-the great fall harvest.

      THE END-OF-THE-YEAR FEAST OF INGATHERING (Feast of Tabernacles): “And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou has sown in the field and the FEAST OF INGATHERING, which is in the END OF THE YEAR, when you have gathered in thy labours out of the field” (Ex. 23:16).

      “Thou shall observe the FEAST OF TABERNACLES seven [number of perfection] days, after that you have gathered in your corn and your wine: And you shall REJOICE IN YOUR FEAST, you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, the stranger, and the widow, that are within your gates [that’s just about EVERYONE, wouldn’t you say?]. Seven days [here’s that perfect number again] shall you keep A SOLEMN FEAST [a very important feast to God] unto the LORD your God in the place which the Lord shall choose: because the Lord thy God shall bless you in all your increase, and in all the works of your hands, therefore you shalt surely REJOICE” (Deut. 16:13-15). Here truly was a festival in which EVERYONE, every single person in all Israel, and also did you notice, “the STRANGER” who was NOT an Israelite could really REJOICE! THIS FESTIVAL WAS THE HAPPIEST TIME OF THE YEAR! Do we think it will have no fulfillment in God’s grand plan of salvation?

      “Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, the fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the FEAST OF TABERNACLES for seven days unto the LORD. On the first day shall be an holy convocation: you shall do no servile work therein. Seven days you shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the EIGHTH DAY shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by FIRE unto the LORD: it is a SOLEMN assembly; and you shall do no servile work therein” (Lev. 23:34-36). Why is the profound and marvelous truth of this festival not taught in its proper chronological order by the prophets of Christendom? How is it even possible to avoid seeing the powerful and glorious consummation of God’s salvation in this Fall Harvest Festival? Why is the truth of this GREAT FEAST being hidden from the eyes of the world? What is it that they are trying to hide from us? God’s Word will show us.

      JESUS TAUGHT THE PURPOSE OF THE FALL HARVEST

      The eighth day of this Feast of Tabernacles was called “The Last Great Day of the Feast.” Jesus Christ Himself came to the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem and spoke on the Last Great Day:

      “In the last day, that GREAT DAY OF THE FEAST, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If ANY MAN thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of LIVING WATER” (John 7:37-38).

      At what point in future prophecy, will Jesus Christ CUT OFF the invitation to all and any who are athirst to drink of His LIVING WATERS? Our Lord NEVER cuts off the invitation to drink of the living waters. These waters (a symbol for God’s SPIRIT) will be available until every creature in heaven and earth is saved:

      “And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY” (Rev. 21:6).

      “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that hears say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the WATER OF LIFE FREELY” (Rev. 22:17).

      And this declaration is made just five verses before the END OF THE BIBLE!

      But don’t be deceived, Jesus Christ IS the “tree of life” in the Garden, and NO ONE can partake of that tree of life except he first pass the through the “FLAMING SWORD” that points in all directions and guards the tree of life. Remember, “Our God is a CONSUMING FIRE” (Heb. 12:29).

      So Tabernacles celebrated the great Fall harvest, the largest harvest of the whole year. It was this great Fall harvest that would sustain Israel through the winter months. There were far more products to be harvested in the END of the year than in the Spring of the year. Therefore this same type must carry over into the New Testament.

      So here is where we are. There were THREE great festivals in the yearly calendar of Israel:

      “THREE TIMES in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which He shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread [which included Passover], and in the feast of weeks [firstfruits], and in the feast of tabernacles [the time of the great fall harvest]: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty” (Deut. 16:16).

      First comes the wave sheaf, the very first of the firstfruits, on Passover, during the feast of unleavened bread. This represents CHRIST, the very first (wave sheaf) OF the firstfruit, our Passover sacrificed for us.

      Second was the Feast of Weeks when the firstfruit of the land was harvested. This represents US, the FIRSTFRUIT to enter God’s Kingdom. James says WE are the firstfruit of God (James 1:18).

      Third came the great Fall harvest, the Feast of Tabernacles, a much much larger gathering, where ALL THE FALL HARVEST was gathered in! What does this Feast picture? This was the time of true REJOICING FOR EVERYONE. Absolutely EVERYONE. No one was left out of this great and final festival of the year:

      “And thou shalt rejoice IN THY FEAST [of Tabernacles, the fall harvest], YOU, and your SON, and your DAUGHTER, and your MANSERVANT, and your MAIDSERVANT, and the LEVITE, the STRANGER [GENTILES], and the FATHERLESS, and the WIDOW, that are within your gates” (Deut. 16:14).

      NO ONE was EXCLUDED! EVERYONE was INCLUDED!

      And so we see in the New Testament that these three festivals of ancient Israel are really TYPES in God’s master plan of salvation. Christ the FIRST of the firstfruit. Then believers, the FIRSTFRUITS. And then the rest of the world, the great FALL HARVEST .

      But wait a minute. We know that Christ was the First of the firstfruit to be resurrected to life. We also know that all the believing saints who are to reign with Christ at His coming are the rest of the firstfruits. So where then does the great fall harvest of souls come into God’s family? When have you ever been taught about the great fall harvest, which excludes no one but includes everyone? There is a reason why you haven’t heard the truth of these Scriptures in Christendom.

      According to Christendom THERE IS NO GREAT FALL HARVEST OF SOULS at the end of the ages!

      That’s right, they say there will be NO Fall Harvest in God’s Kingdom. Just how do they account for such a thing? Is God such an inept and unskilled Farmer that He has a total crop failure when Fall harvest time comes, or will He just BURN THE ENTIRE HARVEST in the eternal fires of some fabled hell?

      End of article.

      So, there isn’t just one general resurrection likewise as there was not just one festival in ancient Israel. Believers are promised eonian (age-lasting life) while the rest of the world will suffer (not consciously) eonian (age-lasting destruction).

      2 Thessalonians 1:8-9;

      He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting (Greek – “aionios” age-lasting NOT everlasting or eternal) destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.

      This eonian age-lasting destruction is just a prolonged sentence of death for many prior to them eventually being resurrected to judgment and then salvation.

      These are my thoughts about the subject but I am curious to know if you have a link from Ray’s site that talked about him believing in one general resurrection. It would seem to me that this idea would contradict some clear conclusions about the state of the dead, rewards, and the resurrection.

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    1. Okay, I’ve read that discussion post titled “The Ages” in the past and reading it again, I still don’t see the connection of Ray teaching about one general resurrection. The millennial reign and the Great White Throne judgment have to occur in separate ages because of what Christ says in Matthew 12:32… we know that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will NOT be forgiven in THIS age or in the age TO COME. So we have TWO ages in view here, this age, which we are presently living in and then the age to come. What is the age to come? The “last day” at Christ’s return will essentially end this present age and the following age will commence into the millennial reign with Christ after the first resurrection. If both the millennial reign and the Great White Throne judgment occurred in the same age, then blasphemy of the Holy Spirit would have to be forgiven in the “age to come” which is the millennial reign with Christ and that would contradict what Christ stated in Matthew 12:32.

      Consider this;

      Even if we take out the spurious line of, “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished” how does that change two resurrections to just one general resurrection?

      Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

      It is clear here that there is a FIRST resurrection in which those who partake in it avoid the “second death”. The second death is the lake of fire judgment (Great White Throne Judgment). They can’t occur in the same age at least from what I understand.

      Now, with all that said, I understand what you are saying… How can we reign and rule if there is no one to reign and rule over? That is a logical and fair question but I think there is more to age to come that we will ever know in this life. I think we as humans tend to get a little ahead of ourselves in terms of being hopeful for future events. Reigning and ruling with Christ is certainly going to happen but I believe God has much more work to do with us even in the millennial age with Christ in preparation for ambassadors in the government of God. Jesus Christ is the Messiah, the Savior of the World, but neither of those titles have been fully realized at the moment as the majority of the world doesn’t even believe it. There are many things that have yet to be fulfilled before Christ is truly the Messiah of all and actually literally saves the whole world. We have to put all of this on a much bigger timeline than just being resurrected from the dead and immediately judging the wicked. We barely get it right in this life and without God’s mercy we are all doomed. There is so much more about God that we have to learn… Even in this earthly life, nothing that is of high office or high prestige is obtained quickly or easily. Think about it this way… we entered this world as “babies” knowing nothing and being 100% depending on our parents. I don’t think its too much of a stretch to think that we would be “spiritual babies” so to speak in the kingdom of God which would require much growing and learning. Learning takes time and we only have the “earnest” or (small down payment like in buying a house) of God’s spirit in this life. When we put up “earnest money” on a house, it is a promise to the bank or a sign of good faith that you will make good on the loan. God has given us this small down payment of His spirit but God will make good on His promise to pour out His spirit not only on us but on all flesh. So I cam convinced that there is no person in the history of humanity that will ever truly understand what life will be like when we have the full measure of God’s spirit in our lives.

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  8. I have a question. When I was 19, God stirred my heart to see others as more than the 2-dimensional creeps I had thought them before. Suddenly the doctrine of Hell became very troubling, and I began to research… Several websites, many stumbled-upon verses, and glorious realizations later, I no longer believed in eternal Hell, and knew that everything would come right in the end.
    I have a twisting road from those days, and some times of intentional disbelief, but I am again searching earnestly for the truth.

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  9. When I was 19, God stirred my heart so I saw people as more than the 2-dimensional creeps I had viewed them as before. Suddenly I was praying for random people, and the concept of Hell became very troubling. I turned to the internet to see if I could find anything to assuage the experience. Several websites, numerous stumbled-upon verses, and some wonderful realizations later, I no longer believed in any eternal torture, and I KNEW that everything would come all right in the end.
    It was amazing.

    Unfortunately, I was susceptible in several ways at the time, and through some twisting roads, even came to call myself an atheist at one time. Yet I feel a gentle pull and have lately been reading more on the evidence for Christianity. It is encouraging in some respects so far.
    But I have a question. Why would God subject us to sin and the agony that it causes? I have several hypotheses, but sometimes they seem a mockery in the sheer choking rawness of pain caused by evil. Has anyone else found answers about this?

    Thank you for this article.

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    1. Hello Rachel and thanks for commenting… I’d be glad to answer your question and I have a short easy answer and a longer more complex answer. The first short and easy answer is that God has subjected us to sin and agony because it is God’s will. This is what He has chosen to do for His purposes and He isn’t obligated to tell us anything. However, there is a more glorious and wonderful climax in God’s will for humanity. The long and more complex answer is that God is “creating” mankind in His image as we are told in Genesis 1:26. Notice that I put quotes around the word creating… I did that for a reason because most translations use the word created which implies that God’s creation of man was complete at that time in the beginning. We were certainly created as living beings but we are not a finished product… We are in the process of being made into the living image of our Creator and since we have an awesome Creator, we cannot be made in His image in the blink of an eye. Now, with all that said, what does it mean to be made in the image of God? Well, we are told in Genesis 3 after Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that man has become “like” God to know good and evil. So there it is… we live in a world that has good and evil in it and this life is just the process God instituted for us to be made in His image. Now here is the part that requires a bit of wisdom. What is evil without an understanding of what is good or what is good without and understanding of what is evil? Can the two be understood without knowledge of the other? The answer is NO… If there is no knowledge of evil, how can you determine what is good and what isn’t? This is the wisdom of God… You can’t have knowledge of good without understanding it’s relationship to the knowledge of evil. Hot is only hot in its relationship to cold so as in love and hate, up and down, east and west, life and death, sickness and health, good and evil and so on… Consider this, how can a person be honest if they have no knowledge of what lying is or if they haven’t ever been challenged to be honest? Why do young children lie so easily? The true answer is that God made us this way… We are all (you and I included) accustomed to do evil. We all have evil in us but our parenting and environment plays a huge part in our eventual moral compass. This life is all of about learning but not just learning anything, learning to do what is right. That is the message we hear as children from our parents, in school, and in the real world. We put laws and regulations in place to establish order. Some people are more predisposed to evil than others but make no mistake about it we are all capable of grave evil in the right circumstances… Nobody chooses their parents and nobody has a say in where they are born. Many children suffer abuse while a child and they grow up repeat the same cycle of abuse. God is not cruel and what He has subjected us to is only for a season. This life is but a blade of grass, one minute up and vibrant and in the next moment cut down forever. Our temporary sorrows in this short life on earth cannot be compared to the future God has created for all humanity. Rest assured that God will eradicate sin, sorrow, sadness, and death but we have to go through this life first. I get it though and I feel myself wanting to leave this earth just to get away from all of the evil but I understand God’s ultimate plan for all of us so I don’t worry as much. God is in control so it’s of little value to stress over what we cannot control. Read my paper about God’s Plan of Salvation for the Whole World if you haven’t already and I’m sure it will answer some of your questions.

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      1. Thanks for your hard work putting this site together.I started on a journey about 10 year ago and through thousands of hours of study, prayer, tears and sorrow have come to conclusions that mirror yours to a T. I came across your page while cementing some thoughts on the lake of fire, it may be the one topic where I still was uncertain on some issues and hadn’t put all my thoughts and study together…Your article summed it up as if I could have written it! The sensation you have when you find out that you are not alone in this journey can be exhilarating, thank you!

        I have been in a prolonged debate with my Christian sister, a fundamentalist AG, KJV, hellfire, freewill, immortal soul believer! It was wearing me down but your site has reinvigorated me to continue my transformation from where she is (as was I) to what God is making me into!

        As you must know, I am heretic, new age, false doctrine, another gospel, Bible rejecting, out of context false teacher….It does get hard at times uttering 1 Timothy 4:10 and telling Christians you believe in the salvation of all. It can release a firestorm of venom from otherwise loving, kind people. It has shown me what Christianity has done and how deep the deception lies within this false religion.

        Thank you again for this great resource for the Eccelsia !

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    1. To be honest with you, the “rapture” is not a biblical teaching. It is a Christian teaching that is based solely on Christian fantasy. The actual phrase in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is “caught up” and this phrase comes from the Greek word “harpazō” which means to catch up, take by force, pluck or pull. This has nothing to do with being “raptured” from the earth and into some magical place called heaven. Matthew 24:30 tells us that the Son of Man will be coming on the clouds of heaven so the saints will be “caught up” to MEET the Lord in the air. It is essentially, a grand introduction of the saints meeting Christ in person but once it’s over, Christ along with the saints will return back on land to eventually establish God’s kingdom on earth.

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      1. ‘My kingdom does not come with your observance; it is WITHIN YOU.’ LK 17:20-24. The kingdom of God came down out of heaven in the first century. The old kingdom was of the flesh, seen, external, temporary elements. The new is of the spirit,unseen, internal, eternal elements. 2 Cor 4:18; Matt 16:28. ‘There be some STANDING HERE who will not taste of death until they see me coming in my kingdom.’ First century event fulfilled.

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  10. Hello my friend. I just read an article entitled “Twelve God-Given Truths To Understand His Word” by Ray L. Smith. It’s an incredibly insightful article. However, in his paper he made mention of the prophets of old, who were an example of those who exercised faith, yet they died without receiving the promise. Is the promise eonian life? He (Ray Smith) also quoted scripture (Hebrews 11) where they (they prophets of old) were not to become perfect without us (God’s elect). My question is this? If they did not receive the promise and must be made perfect thru God’s elect then how do we explain this verse? Mathew 8: 11″ And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.” According this verse, the prophets of old are part of the KOH. Can you please give me some insight on this?

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  11. In your section “Exposing the Counterfeit Gospel of Christianity”, you compare Adam to Christ. You state that Adam was “created subject to sin” and that Christ was “created sinless”. I don’t think you mean to suggest that Christ was “created”, or do you?

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    1. Well there are other words to explain “created” such as “born” and Colossians 1:15 tells us that he, Jesus Christ was the “firstborn” of all CREATION… Now, I am well aware that there are dozens of interpretations of that scripture but most of them exist only to fit within the ideology of Christianity. Jesus Christ has a Father which makes him a son. A son doesn’t exist without a parent and without being born. I’m a father too but I only became one after I “made” children. A father always comes before the son…

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  12. Hello good sir,

    I have been a born-again believer since childhood. I’m 34 now.

    The past couple months I have been searching and seeking about Hell, the lake of fire, and how the majority of people that have ever lived will end up in eternal torture because God says so. And how this can possibly be reconciled to God’s nature if God is love.

    You have completely answered all of my questions. I have been in a slight state of shock that I have not been able to see the truth about hell until recently.

    You are absolutely doing God’s work. I have such peace now knowing that God truly is love and I don’t know how to put it in words.

    Thank you so much,
    God bless

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    1. There is NO such thing as soul winning… All souls belong to God and God will redeem all souls to Himself in the proper timing. The ideal of “soul winning” is NOT a biblical concept. It is a man-made tradition made popular by the late Billy Graham as a way to grow and increase the institution of Christianity which by the way is a completely man-made religious system. Christianity has very little to do with God or Christ. The problem here is terrible bible translation. The Hebrew word “laqach” is the word used to render the English word “win” and the bible translators couldn’t have been more irresponsible. This Hebrew word is found 965 times in the King James Old Testament and only this one time is it translated as the word “win”. It is properly translated as “to take, to receive, to get, or to fetch”. Here are a few examples of how “laqach” is properly translated;

      Proverbs 1:3 To “receive” (Hebrew – laqach) instruction in wise behavior, Righteousness, justice and equity;

      Deuteronomy 30:4 If your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there he will “fetch” (Hebrew – laqach) you;

      Isaiah 56:12 “Come,” they say, “let us “get” (Hebrew – laqach) wine. Let us drink much strong drink. And tomorrow will be even better than today.”

      Job 28:2 Iron is “taken” (Hebrew – laqach) out of the earth. And copper is melted from the rock.

      Now it should be clear that none of these scriptures would make a lick of sense if the Hebrew word “laqach” was translated as the word “win”… Iron is not won from the earth and we do not win instruction.

      The subject of Proverbs 11 has nothing to do with salvation in Jesus Christ anyway but the concept here is that the product of righteousness is life and it is a wise thing for a person to lead someone into the knowledge of God. Most people are lead into the knowledge of Christianity so they indeed win something but that prize is just membership into a church building.

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      1. Thanks for the reply.

        I’m just trying to understand what I’m called to do now, knowing this knowledge about the pagan myth or eternal torture.

        Obviously I should still tell others about Jesus and what he’s done in my life. And that all mankind will be saved through him.

        How many people do you think actually know the truth — that Jesus saves all, and pagan-hell-torture does not exist?

        I’m just trying to get a handle on what to do with this incredible truth…

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      2. What do you feel like you were called to do before you understood that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World? Telling people that there is no hell will only open you up for much ridicule especially from Christians. I’m not telling you to not share the truth, just know that most will not receive this amazing revelation because they are too brainwashed by centuries of Christian indoctrination. Those that know that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world and actually believe that he will be successful at that task are sadly in a very small minority. The sad truth is that most Christians do not even want Christ to save the whole world. They want evil people to suffer for all eternity not even realizing that any one of us could easily be a murderer or a rapist under the right circumstances. The scriptures tell us that the chosen in this age are only a “few” compared to the “many” that are called. Then you have the rest of the world that doesn’t care or know anything about the Creator of the Universe. When Christ returns to the earth at his second coming, there will essentially be no one that believes.

        Luke 18:7-8 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

        The Greek word “ara” is translated as the word “when” in Luke 18:8. The word “ara” is a Greek interrogative participle that implies a negative response. So when Christ asks the question, “shall the son of man find faith on the earth when he comes”? A negative answer is implied as in NO, he will not find much faith at all on the earth.

        In this life you will never find answers to all of your questions but solace can be found in knowing that God intending for it to be this way for now…

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  13. Thanks, makes sense. I’m so thankful God opened my eyes. It has been a persistent humbling process with Jesus the past two years for me as he has opened my eyes again and again.

    A couple random questions:

    1) Is being saved the same as being born-again? And once saved, we then have age-abiding life correct?

    2) What are your thoughts on the speaking in tongues that Pentecostals do?

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    1. 1) Is being saved the same as being born-again? And once saved, we then have age-abiding life correct?

      Nobody is really saved in this life. Salvation involves being saved from our dying bodies, getting sick, being subjected to the lusts of the flesh, sin, and the overall power of death. Nobody is spared from any of those things in this life. Salvation is a process that requires suffering and going through the fire of judgment. Everyone will go through this process one way or another. When Christians claim to be “saved” they are most likely referring to being saved from their own pagan hell coupled with the prize of entering some magical kingdom called “heaven”. It is nothing but Christian fantasy… Christians still get sick and they still deal with the sins of the flesh and they most certainly still die. They are no more saved from anything than anybody else in this present age. 2 Corinthians 1:22 tells us that we have God’s Spirit in “earnest” which is likened to that of a small down payment. So just like when we buy a house, the lender requires an “earnest payment” which is usually about $500 and this payment represents a good faith promise on the part of the buyer that they will follow through with the process of buying the house. In the same way, God seals His chosen with a small down payment of His Spirit with the promise of pouring out His Spirit in full measure in the resurrection. So, with that said, nobody is actually “born-again” either in this present age. In John 3:8, Jesus tells the Pharisee Nicodemus that every one that is born of the Spirit is like the WIND… Well, the wind is invisible and it is powerful but I’ve yet to see anyone that would qualify under those conditions. These are characteristics of what occurs in the resurrection when we are born into spiritual bodies (like the wind) and vivified – given immortality (power). Some of this confusion exists within the Greek for there is only one word that describes conception and birth but these two words do not mean the same thing. Jesus was conceived or begotten in Nazareth but he was born in Bethlehem. Conception occurs before birth so believers are begotten of the Holy Spirit meaning that this earnest of God’s Spirit is just the beginning of our spiritual conversion from the fleshly to the spiritual.

      Age-abiding life is the promise God extends to believers who overcome the world. It is an age of extended living beyond this present age of life. Everyone will not experience that or be alive during that age. Actually the large part of humanity will not be alive during that age.

      2) I don’t believe that there is much value to any form of modern day speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues refers to speaking in known languages not unknown languages and much of what I have seen in Christian churches is people uttering unintelligible unknown gibberish that edifies nobody except the person doing it. Some people claim that it is their private prayer language and if that is the case so be it but private prayer should be private. If a person spoke in a different tongue (language) than those around, then an interpreter would be necessary so that everyone could hear the message. If there is no interpreter then what is the point of the person speaking in a different tongue that nobody can understand? 1 Corinthians 13:8 says that tongues referring to the speaking of tongues (different languages) shall CEASE… I may not understand Spanish but I can tell when somebody is speaking Spanish. There are many things that were different during the times that Christ walked the earth and the time after his death. Some of the Apostles were able to raise the dead but we certainly do not see any of that happening in modern times. Speaking in tongues certainly had its place in the church during the early stages but I just do not see it’s relevance in this present time. Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:19 that he would rather speak 5 words with his own understanding so that he could teach others than 10,000 words in a tongue. That’s a pretty profound statement if you ask me…

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  14. Awesome, thank you. All that makes perfect sense.

    So can I know now that I’m an overcomer who will reign with Christ in his millennial kingdom? How do I know I have age-abiding life? Who receives it?

    I have certainly received the earnest of the Spirit. I have overcome much of my flesh, albeit I have a lot of work to go yet.

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  15. Also, after the 1,000 year reign and after the 2nd resurrection, are we then in heaven where God is? He creates a new heavens and new earth, correct? Those in his millennial kingdom, do they go to heaven permanently?

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    1. Well pretty much all of this stuff depends on faith and faith is a gift from God so just trust that God will work everything out. Remember that we are His achievement so what happens in and through you is God working it out anyway. We have the assurance but we also must remain faithful to the end. Remember that Judas allowed his lust for greed to cause him to fall away but he still repented. Is Judas being tormented in some god forsaken Christian hell for all eternity? According to Christendom he is but at worst he will rise in the second resurrection to judgment in which he will lose his carnal self to be reborn as a spiritual child of the Most High.

      Only the chosen select few are the ones that will be given age-lasting life in the millennial kingdom. There are many called but few chosen and if God has chosen you, there is nothing you can do to not be chosen because God will cause all the things necessary to ensure that you will overcome what you need to overcome. All things occur according to the will of God, even evil… God allows evil to occur during this age but evil is necessary in the instruction of righteousness for what is good without evil? Or better yet, how can you measure what is good without knowledge of what is evil? This is the wisdom of God… God allows us to go through things so that we can learn righteousness.

      After the 1,000 year reign of God’s elect with Christ in the kingdom of God, the 2nd resurrection will commence with the chosen being commissioned as “SAVIORS” yes plural to save the world. Who knows how long this will take but I can assure you that we will not be in some physical location called “heaven”. The Christian concept of “heaven” is not biblical or even logical. It likens God to that of a man… God is not sitting on a literal throne in heaven. That is figurative language for God doesn’t have a body for which he must sit down on anything. God is “SPIRIT” and He is also invisible. God is everywhere so it would be impossible for God to be in just one location. Jesus tells us that the kingdom of God or “heaven” if you will is within you! Heaven is a spiritual condition of existence. We all exist within this physical realm wrapped up in a fleshly physical body but that is just our experience now. We experience physical sight through our eyes but sight is not dependent on the eye. That is just how God created sight for physical beings. There is no way for us to ever know what life will be like in the ages to come but we can know that it will be far better than this life. So with all that said, where does God dwell? In church buildings made by men? No, God dwells in heaven… Well where is heaven? Remember Heaven is WITHIN YOU! God dwells in temples not made with hands and YOU (believers) are the temples of God (1 Corinthians 3:16) not made with hands. That’s heaven! God residing in you, working in you, and transforming you into the spiritual image of His Son!

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  16. Question: if the King James Version (and other versions of the Bible) were perverted and manipulated to further the institutionalized “church’s” agenda, what is the MOST scripturally accurate and sound translation that we have today, that don’t contain translation errors to further the church’s agenda? Thanks!

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    1. The Concordant Version is probably the most accurate in terms of being the closest to the original manuscripts but no translation is free from human error. There are other decent bibles such as Young’s Literal Translation and Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible but I don’t typically rely on just one translation anyway when studying a certain subject. I reference the KJV a lot mostly because Strong’s Concordance is based on the KJV. I don’t have a comprehensive list but there are dozens of translations that do not translate any word as hell or the words eternal, everlasting, and forever and ever as substitutes for words that pertain to ages. There are other minor issues but those are by far the worst.

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  17. Hi, I’ve noticed in the comments that you said that “the rapture is a christian fable”. What do you mean by that? Contrary to the christian’s teachings in regards with the rapture, what actually really happens?

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    1. The “rapture” is an entire Christian doctrine that includes believers being raptured into heaven at the second coming of Christ to avoid some period of time called the “tribulation”. The problem here is that Christianity creates entire doctrines based off of just one single word. The Greek word “harpazō” for which the word “rapture” is derived is properly defined as being “caught up” or “taken by force”. Christ returns with the clouds of heaven and the saints are “caught up” to meet the Lord in the air… It is nothing more than a grand welcoming of the saints meeting Christ in the air but they don’t go off to some place called heaven and they most certainly do not avoid tribulation. It is through much tribulation that we enter into the kingdom of God (Acts 14:22). The saints return to the earth where they reign with Christ for 1,000 years establishing the kingdom of God right here on earth. “You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the EARTH (Revelation 5:10).”

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  18. Where did demons come from, how about those angles reserved for judgement .what did they do, then may I know about prayer and fasting

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    1. If you read Ephesians 6:12, it could be deduced that “demon” messages and influences are sourced from the forces of evil in the spiritual realm. That is the best answer I can give but as far as the “angels” that are reserved for judgment, there is no way that anybody can know what they did. All we know is that they sinned and that alone is enough to warrant judgment. What exactly is it that you would like to know about prayer and fasting?

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      1. how to fast and are we really supposed to do it. and what can I do to stop things like masturbation

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      2. There is nothing wrong with praying or fasting as long as it is done according to the will of God. Praying or fasting cannot thwart the will of God so learn what the will of God is and pray/fast according to it. There is nothing I can tell you that will stop you from masturbating… Masturbation is one of thousands of sinful vices that humans struggle with and it requires godly intervention to overcome the will of the flesh. Your question is no different than someone asking what they can do to stop smoking or overeating, gambling, stealing, lying, etc… If these influences rule you, you will fall each and every time because we are wired – that is, pre-programmed to be too weak to overcome the lusts of the flesh with our own power. This is why we need a redeemer, to do what we simply cannot do… While it is possible to overcome any sin, one will never be completely free from the totality of sin/lust in these bodies of death that we currently live in. That is why we “wrestle” with the forces of good and evil. Sometimes, it is necessary for us to suffer through a season of evil – a season of being defeated before God will call us out of our sin and into the righteousness that is in Christ. Stay vigilant and keep striving to overcome!

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  19. Hello Sulaiman. I just wanted to say that I have followed your advice and read through the website – address you gave me for – and I must say that you were right, it was a game changer for me. I was going through some of your replies to some older comments in which you mentioned writing a paper on doctrine of trinity and I was wondering if you’re still planning on it? Maybe you have other exposes planned or maybe you have already done so? I’m very much aware that each of us should do their own homework but you have talent to write and explain clearly – thank God for that. I’m looking forward to your reply. God bless you and your loved ones.
    Your sincerely

    Dariusz Waleszczak

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    1. Hello Dariusz, it’s good to hear that those resources have been good tools for your spiritual growth. I have gone back and forth over the past couple of years on whether to write on the doctrine of the trinity and to be honest I just simply haven’t had the motivation to do it. I will probably go ahead and start working on a piece because I realize that it is an important issue for many. The doctrine of the trinity was probably harder for me to give up than the doctrine of hell simply because it is such a profound Christian doctrine but the fact that Christianity embraces such a silly doctrine only justifies for me that Christianity teaches virtually nothing truthful or useful. I just got into a little debate about the trinity a week or so ago on a Facebook group and the moderator blocked it so as to protect one of Christianity’s most sacred cows. One gains absolutely nothing for believing the trinity but denying it essentially would cost you everything as you’d be labeled a heretic and if it was a few centuries ago you’d most certainly be cosigned to the flames… Yes “Christians” murdered people they deemed to be heretics by burning them at the stake ALIVE! Google Michael Servetus. Talk about loving your enemies… smh!

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    1. The same thing that would happen if you got killed in a car accident or if you died of cancer. Suicide is one of many ways that a person can die and when people die, they are dead which is the opposite of being alive. Dead people do not go anywhere. So to answer your question, what would happen if you commit suicide? You would die… For those that believe in Christ, we understand that there will be a future resurrection of the dead in which God will judge the world in righteousness. In the judgment God will right all wrongs, heal all wounds, abolish death, and impart all with immortality…

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    1. No, Matthew 25:41,46 is two of many bible verses that have been corrupted for the words “eternal and everlasting” are not proper translations of the Greek word “aionios”. The Greek noun “aion” is properly defined as an “AGE” which is a period of time that has a beginning and end. Aionios is the adjective derived from the noun aion and an adjective cannot take on a different meaning from the noun of which it was derived. Just as hourly pertains to hours and weekly pertains to weeks, aionios pertains to aions that is – age-abiding pertains to ages. It is illogical and academically irresponsible to make aionios mean eternal but the church had to figure out the best way to scare the hell out of Christians for power and control. The idea of punishment can easily provoke fear but eternal punishment? If you think about it for a second, the idea of eternal punishment is really pretty stupid for what is the purpose of punishment to begin with? Correction and a change in behavior right? If the goal of punishment is to correct or to produce some form of rehabilitation, how can it be achieved if the punishment never ends? The word “punishment” itself comes from the Greek word “kolasis” and this word has more to do with corrective chastisement not the heavily promoted Christian view of literal never ending sadistic torment. So the “fire” and “punishment” is only AGE-ABIDING but the fire used here is certainly not literal. There is nothing and I do mean NOTHING that literal fire can do to correct or rehabilitate people. Fire is used metaphorically in the scriptures many times that points to the effects of what fire does from a purification perspective. Jesus says in Mark 9:49 that EVERYONE shall be salted with fire… Do you believe that is literal and if you do what does it mean to be literally “salted with fire”? This is a metaphoric expression for to salt is a good thing. Salt is a preservative used to increase flavor and to prevent decay so the metaphor illustrates that being salted with this “age-abiding fire” is meant to preserve and enhance a persons value. There is NO eternal fire and there is NO eternal punishment. Both are evil Christian inventions…

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  20. I am still searching scriptures on the subject and glad to have found your site. I do have one issue however. Coming from a church growing up that demanded you accept their interpretations of scripture and no other, I was put off by your comments asking if the readers if they were going to continue to believe the pagan doctrine of hell, etc. I almost quit reading and as my husband and I use some of what you have in our study together, he may not want to continue to read it. This is unnecessary, as the person reading is obviously searching. But the main issue is that I don’t know you. I don’t know that what you are saying is true or false. I don’t know anything about you or your life. I’m not going to read anything, even by someone I know actually, and take it at face value. I have to search the scriptures on my own, look up the words in other resources myself and pray and about it for direction from the Holy Spirit, and then make a decision. Believing in hell doesn’t make one a bad person. It doesn’t make one a non-Christian. Not all people who believe in hell use it to sway people toward a relationship with Christ. We are all in different places in our walk and the Bible says the Holy Spirit will lead us into ALL TRUTH. People can help, but can’t take the place of the Holy Spirit in showing us what the truth actually is. So I hope you will do some editing and take those comments out of your study. I don’t personally know of anyone who would read a page and immediately change their belief. I do thank you for writing this and making it available for us to read and consider what you’ve said and use it as a source for our further study.

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    1. Annie, I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment and your honesty is refreshing but please take a moment to think about what you are requesting of me. You are asking me to edit my writings to appease your personal feelings so if 100 other people make the same request, I may not even have a paper anymore. I’ve never stated that people who believe in hell are bad people for there was a time when I believed in hell. I have stated on more than one occasion that most people believe in hell because of Satan’s deception. I think believing in hell would qualify someone as being more Christian than someone who doesn’t but then that begs the question as to what does it really mean to be a Christian? Does a Christian have to accept and believe everything that comes out of Christianity? What if what Christianity teaches or has taught is wrong? What if it is contrary to and against the will of God? Would being a Christian then be a good thing? It is not a matter for me to be swayed by a stranger to do one thing or another based on the idea that someone might be offended or that they might not read my writings. It is impossible to appease everyone for we all have our belief systems that we hold to so dearly. I do not know everything and I certainly do not claim to be the authority on truth but use this site as a tool for that is essentially what it is… Check the scriptures I’ve used with the Hebrew and Greek, pray, and seek guidance from the Holy Spirit…

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      1. Thank you for responding. I do want to say that being a Christian to me is being a follower of Christ and his teachings regardless what others, even other Christians think or believe. There are many many things ‘some’ Christians believe, say and do that I find terribly embarrassing and I get very angry and it always involves the way they treat others, especially the ‘non-believers’ and of course the way many would treat those of us who don’t go along with some of the mainline teachings (therefore, my concern for how words can be off-putting or hurtful to others and cause them to shut down and not hear what one has to say). On that note, however, I don’t blame the person who believes it because that’s how they’ve been taught and until the Lord brings them into more truth, that’s how they will continue to believe. Also, those I know and love, and believe in hell, don’t want anyone to go to hell. If people who believe in hell as we’ve been taught, with all the fire and brimstone, etc., could never ever look at someone and tell them or want them, or even think about this place where they can end up without weeping our hearts out. And many spend their lives at great sacrifice and risk to try to keep anyone from experiencing it by sharing the good news of Christ with those they can.

        People my age didn’t have the internet, or even the availability of other translations and resources like we do today so it was no wonder those that grew up on King James, as I did from childhood till early adulthood, don’t have a clue that there is any other way to believe. Just what they did with the word ‘hell’ is unbelievable. It is really difficult to understand how they could take that kind of liberty, but they did, and we suffer the consequences. But God is good and those that are truth seekers and are ready to know the truth of these things, will learn. but it can shake one’s faith to the core.

        Anyway, I guess if I stated my concern differently, maybe I would have said something more like, “What you have to say is something good for others to read and consider and I’d hate for them to feel judged by an aside comment that could cause them to feel judged or believe you are putting yourself and what you believe above them and cause them to stop reading the rest (the first one came very early on).” It wasn’t anything to do with your beliefs or explaining what you believe. It was a remark to the readers and I can go find them if you need me to refresh your memory, but I’ve already said enough I think. And I did say I was afraid my husband would sense the same thing, and he did, but he continued to read it for me because I made it part of the study he’s doing with me and we will continue going through it together.

        Thank you again for responding and for allowing this site to be here.

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      2. Annie, it is my sincere hope that everything that I’ve written causes all those who read it to feel judged just as the truth judged me when God revealed it to me. There is nothing wrong with being judged for it is judgment that leads to correction.

        Isaiah 26:9 With my soul I have desired You in the night, Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early; For when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

        You see… judgment is a good thing for we have court systems that judge people with the hope of correcting people’s behavior and even parents judge their own children with the goal of influencing a change in behavior. Christianity has created this idea that judgment is a bad thing and I think this is primarily the case because most people associate judgment with eternal torture in hell but torture is not judgment for torture doesn’t produce anything of value.

        My purpose for making this site was to expose the lies that has been fed to us by Christendom for so many years and I don’t think it’s possible for such lies to be exposed without most feeling some form of conviction. With that said, there is no way for me to control the feelings and perceptions of others and I am not trying to bribe people into believing God’s truth. Let the word of God judge what needs to be judged so that we can all learn and grow in righteousness but it is not an easy feel good process. If you are my sister in Christ and I see you doing wrong and I call you out on it… how can we grow if the response is always, don’t judge me? How can any of us grow if we can always defer to saying “don’t judge me”? When judgment is executed the right way which is to correct, how can we reject that?

        I apologize if what I said offended you but what I’m saying is that there is no way for me write in a way that appeases everyone. I’ve have had people thank me for the way that I write about hell so for those people it was necessary. My advice would be to not take things like that so serious because at the end of the day, the most important part of all of this is recognizing what is truth in the face of so many lies…

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  21. I wanted to share that prior to finding this site, I had been researching many biblical “inconsistancies” which I wanted to reconcile. If God does not contradict Himself and the bible is God “breathed” (originally) then it is mans translation that is giving God’s word contradictions. Some background, I was baptized as a baby (some call it christened, but I don’t buy that, not biblical) traditionally, went to Sunday school for a short stint in my early childhood but was never a serious church goer as some. I believe in Christ (Yeshwa) as the saviour of the world, but had a “carnal-minded” view of who Yeshwa really was which carried into my adult-hood. Basically, in my opinion at that time if we are all children of God than Christ is my brother and why should I have to “go through” Him to get to the Father.

    I have since realized that statement actually talks specifically about His sacrifice, no one gets to the Father except through Me. Only by His sacrifice are we reconciled to the Father. So, the mis-interpretation of this scripture says if you do not believe, you are condemned. I accepted the “hell” doctrine as belief for a long time, with no real conviction, I had no real connection with God (Yahweh) the Father or Christ (Yeshwa) the son. To me they were distant and unconcerned with me day to day.I also did not have a distiction between Christ & man, then reading scripture that stated “God’s only son” I found myself feeling abandon & completely turned my back on God and religion. When I was brought to my knees by alcoholism, I turned to God, in a way, and was enlightened a little, but 10 years in I had the oportunity to expand my belief system as my original sponsor moved away & God prompted me to find someone new, the person He put in my path is a believer and a member of not only aa but CR (celebrate recovery) with is a bible based 12 step program. She invited me to one of those meetings and I reluctantly agreed,

    if you know me well, you know I am stuborn and not easily swayed away from my staunchest beliefs. Anyway, I agreed to work through the 4 books they offer and be done with that, however, during that time God helped me see Christ differently although not quite right, but the challenge was to find “bible truths” so I typed that in and found the website of the same name and although it doesn’t agree with you, it did help me understand Christ a little better. God has a way of easing us into truth and this was His way to move me toward the reality of His word. I had a new understanding of Christ and was “re” baptized in 2013. Started going to bible study classes, started reading the bible more regularly and started learning scripture.

    I was told that I needed to trust God and with that came even deeper research, I went through some serious anger with the christian belief of hell as a place of eternal torment and could not trust a God who would create someone anyone that He could not save (another christian mis-nomer is that God “can’t”). I told my friend I could never trust a god who would torment any of his creation eternally, I could also never trust a god who would destroy his creation and wipe away the memory of that creation from those who knew them. This began my research on the 3 major christian beliefs (eternal damnation, complete annihilation, universal salvation). My first endeavor was to find scriptures that “support” each, 17 on destruction, 13 on damnation & 28 on all saved.

    First I had to reconcile “fee will” and found there is no where in scripture that God says we have the gift of free will. The examples are simple Jonah is one my son brought to my attention as an example, however, it proves that he did not have a choice, God’s will was that he defy, thereby bringing those on the ship to Jonah’s God prior to obeying the call to through him over-board where God had a “big fish” waiting to swallow him & bring him back to the shore where he was. The idea that Adam ate of the fruit of his own free will is comical as he would not have eaten it if Eve kealed over dead right then and there, right? Judas betrayal, if I were Judas and Christ fingered me at the table as the betrayer, that would have totally changed my mind, oh no not now or if, at worse it did not, surely the other disciples would not leave him alone for one minute and not allow him to betray Christ, but this was God’s will. Finally, in the garden where Christ prayed to take the cup from Him if it was the Father’s will was not an act of “obedience” that He followed through, but an act of God’s will.

    My next endeavor was reconciling the bible scriptures to support one belief, which-ever it was. First of these was to reconcile the complete destruction theory and found that the hebrew & greek words that are mis-translated to the word destruction,actually means lost which changes the meaning of the scriptures annihilation believers use to support that false doctrine but it does reconcile to either of the other 2 eternal damnation or universal salvation.

    My next endeavor was to reconcile the most popular belief, that of eternal damnation. Only in one translation (KJV) is the word “damned” but damnation does not exist in any translation of the bible. So, I moved on to eternal & toment and found that in all but 2 places the words eternal, everlasting & forever are mistranlations of the hebrew aiones & greek eons, which both mean “ages” not any of these other 3 words, the word aiodes is used twice and is the actual hebrew term for everlasting/eternal and in those 2 places describes God’s character and the chains he bound His “disobedient angels” in darkness. Torment translated from words meaning tossed, toiled, perish & judged thereby changing the meaning of eternal torment to toiled ages, age-during judgement tossed ages, ages perished and reconciling the scripture to one true belief, that of salvation for all.

    The response you made to another comment above about the fear of being called to carry the truth, that many will not accept this and persicute us, was something God reminded me of before I read that, as I sent and email to my pastor regarding the biblical truth of 1 Timothy 4:10, 1 Corrinthians 15:22, Phillipians 2:9-11, Isaiah45:23, Collasians 1:17-on, Titus chapters 2 & 3, Romans 3:22, 5:10, 8:20 & 14:11, asking that he please show scripture that refutes these with the knowledge that the word eternal is mis-translated. I asked that he not give me interpretation, just scripture and was hoping I would see back that he was considering true doctrine since his latest sermon series is “Truth with Grace”, but God pointed out that it is not whether my pastor changes his belief, but that I am obedient to share it. Very scary stuff for me.

    On these 3 specific passages that say every knee will bow & tongue confess, the push-back I get is “it’s a heart issue”, but no scripture to dispute, when I point out that “legion” fell on their knees because they recognized Christ as the saviour doesn’t mean they are saved, well if by christian standard you have to also believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, no one who died before Christ was born or was raised can be saved because those who died prior to the birth didn’t know who the messiah would be and therefore unable to confess Christ is Lord, and those that died prior to the ressurection, could not know that was God’s plan so they could not “believe in their heart”. My christian friends will say surely there is a caveat that these people will be saved because they didn’t have the chance to believe, but there is no scripture to support a “caveat” for those people. So, either they’re staunch belief is flawed or something is missing in scripture. One more thing related to scripture is the last line in Revelations, why the warning when He totally knew we wouldn’t listen.

    Also, your explanation of putting the deceiver on the same playing field as God, really opened up my eyes to more truth, that christianity beliefs do just that, not only that but it puts creation on a higher plain than Christ. That is to say one man (Adam) cursed the world without our consent, but one man (Christ) can’t save the world without our consent? Your articles on these false doctrines fall in line with what my belief system as become and with what the “gospel” confirms.

    thank you for this website and doing the research to help those of us who are not convinced that what religion is “selling” is gospel truth.

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    1. Thanks for your comment! I went back over my comments and realized I hadn’t responded so I apologize for that… I try to respond to everyone that takes the time to comment. Reading your testimony was refreshing and I commend you for continuing to work our your salvation but I wanted to point out one thing that you wrote about the Greek word “aïdios” as it does not mean everlasting or eternal. There is no Hebrew or Greek word that means everlasting or eternal. That concept wasn’t introduced until the bible was translated into Latin as the Greek aionios turned to the Latin eternus to the now English eternal. Since Latin preceded English, the English carried over the Latin translation instead of reconciling it with the original Greek. Many people believe that “aïdios” is properly translated as eternal or everlasting because it is being linked to God’s power but is God’s power dependent on time? When time comes to an end and time does end at the conclusion of the ages, what happens to God’s power? Does it vanish or become obsolete? Of course not but this just proves how irresponsible it is to link the word “eternal or everlasting” with anything that is associated with God. Time is a construct created by God and time itself had a beginning so God is not limited by time in any way. Let’s take a look at the two scriptures that we find “aïdios”…

      Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal (aïdios) power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

      Notice that this scripture begins with discussing “INVISIBLE THINGS” as opposed to eternal things. We can clearly “see” the created world but God is not seen as He is invisible and His power is also not seen. We can clearly see the glory and power of creation but we cannot perceive or truly understand it. Aïdios comes from the root word “eidō” and it means to see or to know (perceive). When we add the negative prefix (a) to the beginning of the word, it becomes a negative such as theist to a-theist. A theist believes in a “God” or Supreme Being whereas the atheist doesn’t. So “aïdios” means to not see or not perceive. God’s power is not eternal it is IMPERCEPTIBLE, unseen and unable to be understood. The same applies to Jude 1:6;

      And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

      The chains are not “everlasting” they are not seen or rather “imperceptible” chains… Notice that these angel (messengers) are “reserved” for a future judgment. Now, I must be honest that I am not quite sure if the “angels” spoken of in this verse are referring to “spiritual” messengers or “earthly” messengers but I am leaning towards it referring to earthly messengers. Understand that we get the word angel from the Greek word “aggelos” but this word just means a messenger. There are human messengers and then there are also spiritual messengers. It is very difficult at times to distinguish the two from each other in certain scriptures but the implication of earthly angels – that is “earthly messengers” point to “pastors” or leaders of the church. Are not the pastors of Christianity the leading “messaging” force for God’s so called people in past and modern times? Based on my interpretation of Jude 1:6 with this understanding, these earthly messengers (pastors if you will) kept not their first estate or their beginning – their calling to serve God but left it to serve the “church” the whore that sits upon many waters. Instead of being clothed with the righteousness of God, they have clothed themselves with the lusts, greed, and evils of wicked men. They remain in the darkness of deception (imperceptible or unseen chains) to be reserved for judgment in the second resurrection.

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      1. Amazing stuff, thank you for clarifying the eternal mis-translation, it reconciles the bible much for accurately for me. I do want to comment on the “angels” held in darkness, as I believe it speaks to “God’s sons and mans daughters” verse.

        I wanted to elaborate on something else I was directed to investigate further, I have been wrestling with “free-will” and with the help of the Holy Spirit and a friend who I have been trying to help see the true “Gospel” and universal salvation, but I was having issues with this part, as there are several verses that speak to choice & decisions. I was saying God designed us for a specific purpose and therefore we have “no choice” she said it must be by “choice” that we are saved not by design. I gave her scripture that supported my idea of universal salvation and she showed me scripture that supported her idea of “free-will” or “choice”. After texting back and forth on the subject, the Holy Spirit spoke to me, saying “there is no reason that you both can’t be right”. God will save all and we do have a choice. I forget and I think many also make this same error that God missed something, however, He spoke to me saying “what makes you think God doesn’t already know we will all ‘choose’ life and therefore all be saved.”

        We have conversed about the subject of all verses some, the scripture that says “if you confess with your tongue that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him for the dead, you will be saved” which is what most “christian” doctrine is based on and they seem to believe that this also proves that all will not be saved. That even though God says every knee/every tongue in three different scriptures, He cannot have this because of “free-will”. However, God lives outside time and knows that all will choose to be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit which in scripture is the only way you can “confess that Jesus is Lord” and therefore be saved. The arguement I have received is “if this is so, then why carry the message of Jesus”, the answer I now understand is “to make disciples” to bring as many as we can to the truth, let them decide for themselves whether to be a part of the first ressurection of the faithful or the second of the servant. I am still working on this part of it, but I do know that we will all stand before God and be judged for what we have done, some will receive reward while other will suffer lose but they to will be saved. When I can recocile scripture, God’s truth is clearly evident.

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      2. What verse are you referring to about God’s sons and man’s daughters?

        The topic of “free will” and the fact that we (humans) do not possess such an ability is very difficult for many people to grasp. There are very is ways to debunk such nonsense. The first and most simplified response at least in my opinion is to ask free willers if children have free will? By children, I am referring to children who are still in total responsibility to their parents. I have 4 children (3 teenagers and one little booger) and I have to submit to the fact that children do not have free will. They are subjected to do MY WILL! Of course they can disobey me but if they have to think about being disobedient then choices are no longer free. The idea of free will is actually impossible when you think about it because we are not “free” to choose to do whatever we want. We are free to choose whatever is the most powerful motivating influence that drives our moral engine. Our moral engine is our hearts and by that alone, we naturally seek to satisfy the lusts of the flesh. When we see something we like, we covet it but God says we shall not covet. The flesh cannot please God it takes supernatural spiritual INFLUENCE from God to overcome the will of the flesh. Another consideration is LAW. Our world is governed by laws for even God Himself operates under the (COUNSEL – that’s law) of His own will. God doesn’t even have free will. Some will argue that but then I ask, is God free to lie? They of course say no but then I ask why not? If God is free to lie why doesn’t He… what is stopping Him? Well, the answer is clear that God is perfect and since He has already determined under His own counsel and law that He won’t lie He doesn’t lie. Free will is spiritual ANARCHY! There is NO scripture that states that God cannot accomplish His will after man dies. It is no secret that everyone is not being drawn to God in this life. Christians struggle with the truths of God because they embrace so many false traditions and ideas of religion. Your friend is absolutely right, it will be by choice but what is wrong with the idea that God cannot be so overwhelming, so amazing, so powerful that He INSPIRES the whole world to submit to His will? I’ve had many Christians tell me that God will not force anyone to be with Him? Force? Do earthly parents force their children to live with them? There is nothing greater that the overwhelming power of love. The doors to my house are locked from the inside yet none of my children have left. I like to think of it like this… name one person in the history of the world that has used their supposed free will to reject oxygen? Oxygen is necessary in sustaining natural life right? What if God is the of cause of spiritual life being sustained? In the resurrection to judgment, I do not believe it will be possible for anyone to reject God. It is possible now because God allows it and it is not time for the world to come to salvation. Christ said, if I be lifted up from the earth (on thr cross to die for the sins of the world) I will draw ALL people’s to myself? Who is left out in all people’s? Since Christians believe that the individual person has to settle the matter of “eternal salvation”, it must occur before death. They do not even realize that there is no such thing as eternal salvation… there is only God’s salvation. God calls many but only a few are chosen. The chosen are they that be wise that will turn (motivate, inspire, and teach) the world to be righteous (Daniel 12:3).

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  22. Who are you I searched up your name and could not find any information on you, do you have a facebook or anything else?

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    1. Lol…. yes I have a Facebook not that it defines who I am but it at least proves that I exist. My Facebook is under my name and doing a Google search shows it right at the top of the search so that’s strange that you couldn’t find me. What would like to know about me?

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  23. Genesis 6:1-4 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

    I totally agree with your analogy of free will, however, my friend defines free will as choice, I am not going to argue the point since she “gets it” so to speak, I used the same explanation of children being unable to make their own decisions and parents did that for them, but free will would mean making choices without any influence by anyone, and we all make choices based on circumstance, peer preasure & influence of ones surroundings. God lives outside time and that is a difficult concept, but when we embrace that truth it means He knows that we will all choose Him.

    One more observation which I caught recently, in the beginning after creating all things the Lord told Adam & Eve they could eat of all in the garden except the tree of the knowledge of good & evil, told them if they eat of that tree they will surely die. The serpent being craftier than all others deceives Eve, asking her if the Lord in fact said that and she said He told them not to eat from or even touch the tree. Looking at this interaction it tells me that sin was already in the world, that we were created with sin nature, it didn’t happen upon eating the forbidden fruit, death & condemnation entered the world but sin was there already.(?) I am relatively new (little more than 5 years at this) so I may be missing something but this is how it looks to me.

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    1. I thought you might be referencing Genesis 6 but the sons of God are men not angels (heavenly beings). These “sons of God” took (the daughters of men) as their WIVES and we learn in Matthew 22:30 that angels do not marry.

      Free will is a very complicated issue for many and I’ve touched on it some but probably will need to write a paper on it at some point.

      Romans 8:20 confirms that we were created with a sin nature… what is ironic that most people do not catch is that Adam and Eve committed their sin before they even at the fruit. They saw that the tree was pleasing to look at (lust of the eyes), good for food (lust of the flesh), and able to make one wise (the pride of life). God made humanity too weak to do His will and the flesh was never intended to please God. He has given us an experience of evil to humble us and to instruct in the knowledge of good and evil. For you to be a little over 5 years in I’d say that you are years ahead of the theologians of Christianity… and I’m completely serious. The more truth we embrace, the more God continues to open our eyes to even greater revelations. God bless you friend…

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  24. I feel like I’m not getting it with the sons of God thing because the children that were created were of “heroic” preportions, taller, stronger, etc, so are you saying that prior to the great flood there were men of “heroic” stature that were not of human couples? The bible talks about these “heroic” types but they seem to have disappeared post flood. So, can you help me understand these scriptures below
    Jude 1:6 messengers also, those who did not keep their own principality, but did leave their proper dwelling, to a judgment of a great day, in bonds everlasting, under darkness He hath kept,
    2 Peter 2:4 For if God messengers who sinned did not spare, but with chains of thick gloom, having cast [them] down to Tartarus, did deliver [them] to judgment, having been reserved,
    Revelation 9:13-16 And the sixth messenger did sound, and I heard a voice out of the four horns of the altar of gold that is before God, saying to the sixth messenger who had the trumpet, `Loose the four messengers who are bound at the great river Euphrates; and loosed were the four messengers, who have been made ready for the hour, and day, and month, and year, that they may kill the third of men; and the number of the forces of the horsemen [is] two myriads of myriads, and I heard the number of them.
    These scriptures feel like they are speaking of the same group as in Genesis6: 1-4, so I know I’ve only taken pieces of the text but when I read above and below I’m still a bit confused. I copied youngs literal translation for your review as well.
    1 And it cometh to pass that mankind have begun to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters have been born to them, 2 and sons of God see the daughters of men that they [are] fair, and they take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen. 3 And Jehovah saith, `My Spirit doth not strive in man — to the age; in their erring they [are] flesh:’ and his days have been an hundred and twenty years. 4 The fallen ones were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when sons of God come in unto daughters of men, and they have borne to them — they [are] the heroes, who, from of old, [are] the men of name.

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    1. There were apparently a race of giant humans that lived on the earth but I can assure you that they were not the product of a human angel union. That is just one of the silliest and most perverted doctrines being perpetrated throughout Christianity. There are a few things that we need to consider when distinguishing between earthly and heavenly messengers (angels). Based on our culture, we have a tendency to assume that an “angel” is a heavenly creature but that is not always the case. John the Baptist was an “angel” but remember that the Greek word “aggelos” just means a messenger. John the Baptist was clearly not a heavenly creature so we have to pay attention to the context and our overall knowledge of scripture. So what do we know about angels (heavenly beings)? We know that they are created beings that exist in the heavenly realm. We also know that angels cannot die. If a heavenly angel “sinned” then it would be subject to death for the wages of sin is death. Jude 1:6 is often quoted to support the teaching of “fallen angels” but this teaching again assumes that these fallen angels have to be heavenly messengers. There is much more biblical support to interpret that these fallen angels are in fact human messengers if we do not allow ideas of religious fantasy to cloud our perspective. Human messengers whom God calls have a “spiritual dwelling” but many of these messengers left there spiritual dwelling for a worldly estate or a place within man’s religion. I can’t see how Jude has anything to do with the judgement of heavenly beings. The same applies to 2 Peter 2:4 as we see that those messengers sinned so they would be subject to death. Heavenly angels can’t die thus suggesting that they also do not sin. Revelation 9:13-16 is not a literal report on something that happened in the past. It is a symbolic message that has nothing to do with literal heavenly messengers falling from the heavens to sleep with women on earth.

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  25. Thank you, the reason I chose Young’s literal translation is due to the actual word “messenger” as opposed to “angel”, I don’t trust the “scholars” that translated the bible since they made up things like “pergatory”, “rapture”, “trinity”, “hell” as a place when it is really the grave and “eternal damnation” which when I researched each word “eternal” is actually from the hebrew & greek words that mean “ages” and “damnation” did not exist, I found that only the KJV had the word “damned” once in the entire book and no other translation has any form of this word.

    I am a stickler for scriptual confirmation, so forgive me if I’m not quite there with the giant human thing yet, and they are being called sons of God which seems to me to be defining these being as different from human children. Angels always seemed a bit “out there” for me, and knowing that God actually called them “messengers” makes more sense. Another observation I have is God created the heavens and the earth as well as earthly and heavenly beings to inhabit these plains, so the “kingdom” of God is not heaven as the so called scholars claim, your explanation of an “invisible” realm where they dwell feels right whether these heavenly beings can sin or not I’m going to look into, remember sin was already in the world before the forbidden fruit was eaten, and the forbidden fruit was about death, humans also did not die until they ate of the tree, so the fact that God’s heavenly creations do not die is separate from whether or not they have the ability to sin. You may very well be correct, but I do like to have scripture supporting claim. Please don’t take this wrong, I am only looking for God’s truth and I believe you are as well.

    Now about the possibility that God’s messengers actually may be capable of sin. I know the story in Revelation about the dragon sweeping a third of the stars is a “vision”, however, it descibes an event which I thought had to do with Christ but I am not sure, however, it may shed some light on the heavenly beings sin-nature?

    Revelation 12:4-9 and his tail doth draw the third of the stars of the heaven, and he did cast them to the earth; and the dragon did stand before the woman who is about to bring forth, that when she may bring forth, her child he may devour; and she brought forth a male child, who is about to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, and caught away was her child unto God and His throne, and the woman did flee to the wilderness, where she hath a place made ready from God, that there they may nourish her — days a thousand, two hundred, sixty. And there came war in the heaven; Michael and his messengers did war against the dragon, and the dragon did war, and his messengers, and they did not prevail, nor was their place found any more in the heaven; and the great dragon was cast forth — the old serpent, who is called `Devil,’ and `the Adversary,’ who is leading astray the whole world — he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him.

    Here it talks about the great dragon as the old serpent who in Genesis is decribed as craftier than all other animals, but does not say he is of earth or heaven, but in Revelation it sounds like he might be, as he seems to be part of the “messenger rebelion”?

    I’m sort of brain-storming here, but this is how God has created me, now I will have to research this to reconcile my confusion and scripture, any additional input, suggestions or guidance you might have would be welcomed whole-heartedly.

    thank you so much.

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    1. There is scriptural support for mortal giants…

      Numbers 13:32-33 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are MEN OF A GREAT STATURE. And there WE SAW THE GIANTS, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

      The word “giants” in verse 33 comes from the same Hebrew word “nĕphiyl” or Nephilim that is also found in Genesis 6:4. These giants were mortal human beings and I will try to explain why I think these giants existed.

      In Genesis 6:3, we read this…

      And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

      Why did God say this? Why was it important for God to shorten the life span of humans? Well, what happens when something lives longer? It gets bigger… if you look back in the previous chapter of Genesis 5, you will see that the generations of Adam lived to be 700,800, and some even over 900 years on the earth. Men lived much longer giving them much more time to grow. It is not an offense for man to be considered a “son of God”. Jesus is the Son of God and he was a man. Adam was made in the likeness of God and human children are created in the likeness of their parents so man being called a “son of God” is certainly appropriate. See Philippians 2:15, Romans 8:14, and 1 John 3:2… these scriptures are not referring to angelic beings but rather earthly men.

      The scriptures really do not give a lot of information about the angels of heaven except for the fact that they are messengers of God with the sole purpose of delivering messages and or assisting God in His work. There is a lot of religious fantasy about angels including the story of Satan being an angel named Lucifer that was kicked out of heaven and also the supposed literal war in heaven. I am not 100% certain that God’s heavenly messengers do not sin but it is my belief they don’t because I haven’t seen the evidence to suggest that they do. Since angel and messenger come from the same Greek word and they are used interchangeably, then we have to be careful when interpreting scriptures like Jude 1:6 or 2 Peter 2:4. Our culture has told us what an angel is and we think of it as a heavenly creature with wings flying around in heaven but an angel can be a person. Jesus was an angel, Peter and Paul were angels, the pastors of Christianity are angels but they were not heavenly creatures flying around a literal heaven, they were messengers. This knowledge leads me to believe that the angels of Jude 1:6 and 2 Peter 2:4 are merely human messengers but I’m actively investigating this topic as I write. I’m trying to use all of my knowledge about “angels” to come to a reasonable conclusion instead of relying on tradition and culture. It is a very difficult thing to do since we tend to embrace cultural and societal norms almost without even thinking about it.

      Revelation 12:4 is not literal… the devil never influenced a third of God’s heavenly messengers to side with him in some literal galactic war in outer space. The book of Revelation is a book of symbols and we have to know what the symbols mean to understand what the scripture is saying.

      The “stars of heaven” represent BELIEVERS – spiritual people but even believers can be overcome. Listen to what Christ says in Matthew 24:29;
      Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall THE SUN BE DARKENED, and THE MOON SHALL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT, and THE STARS SHALL FALL FROM HEAVEN, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

      This is SYMBOLIC language… the sun is a symbol of Christ as He is the light of the world. The sun is the literal example of what brings light to the world. The moon is Christ’s church because the literal moon reflects light from the sun to the earth. The church gets its light from Christ thus spreading His light throughout the world but that is not what happens. The light of this world has been replaced with the darkness of religion. Satan is the prince of this world and it is he that rules and controls the institution of man’s religion. The war in “heaven” is a spiritual war and what does this war consist of?

      Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

      Romans 7:22-23 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, WARRING AGAINST THE LAW OF MY MIND, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

      There are 3 levels of spiritual dwelling in our minds…
      1) The dwelling place of “heaven” which is the highest and most spiritual place while also being the closest to God.
      2) The dwelling place of “earth” is the middle plain consisting of mostly religious people who are still very carnal but also somewhat spiritual.
      3) The dwelling place of the “sea” is the lowest place and represents totally carnality and submission to the sinful works of the flesh.

      Satan has no influence over heaven dwellers but we must maintain our place of residence in the heavenly. If we are not careful and vigilant, we might get cast back down to the earth.

      Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, O HEAVENS, AND YOU WHO DWELL IN THEM! WOE TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH AND THE SEA! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

      The stories of Christendom are grounded in fantasy not scriptural truth. There was never a messenger rebellion in “heaven”.

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  26. That is amazing, I went back to Genesis and started reading it again. I will read up, the bible is so full and there is so much to learn. The old serpent/the dragon sweeping 1/3 of the stars (believers) makes sense and fits with the other scriptures where God talks about thirds of things all across Revelations so it would make sense that 1/3 of the believers would be deceived by the Serpent, I mean look at all the false doctrine that some many who believe and preach as if truth, just like the pharasees. Perhaps it is our purpose to spread the truth about the Gospel to as many as we can. Thank you so much for this platform where I can get answers and ask questions/brainstorm.

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    1. I have some other things I’m looking at, let me pre-empt this a bit, in Revelations it talks about the old heaven & earth passing away and a new heaven & earth are formed. So, when it says not all will enter the “kingdom” of heaven, I am under the impression that this “heaven” is mis-translated and I am thinking that he is talking about a specific group of believers who will rule with Him, while the rest will live on earth as always. My perception is this, if one is to “truly” believe in this mythical “hell” there would be no need for a “new” earth as all that were “saved” would dwell in the Kingdom and the rest in the lake of fire. My thought is that we were not created to live in the “heaven” we were created from the dust of the earth, to live an populate the earth. So, not getting into “heaven” is not necessarily a bad thing. Now I’m trying to reconcile the next scriptures to my belief that all will be saved based on all kinds of scriptural facts.
      When Christ said in Matthew 7:13-14 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it
      Matthew 7:21-23 “not all who say Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
      The bible speaks of a group of Jews that God keeps safe for the end-times (144k) and I think that these are the group which will reign with Him, the “strait” gate? Strait is a water passage so not sure how that fits but will be digging in, thx again.

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  27. In reconciling the statement from Matthew 7, I read 9-27 and Luke 13:20-25, Isaiah 35:1-10 and Revelation 22:10-17 all point to the “bride” which are the “chosen” to rule with Christ for the thousand years? This would reconcile to the universal salvation scriptures because these scriptures speak of a time prior to the end game which would come after the thousand years. Am I on the right track here?
    As I converse with the Lord over these scriptures and He points me in the directions of supporting scriptural truth I start looking at how I can speak grace with truth in carrying this message of what God’s word really says. Being human, I have specific people I want to speak to, but really my goal is to change their thinking, knowing full well, that I am not able to do that and until I am able to let that go I don’t feel like I can carry this truth to them.

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  28. So, here’s a question, who is the bride of Christ, I know he talks about being ready when the bridegroom comes, I get that it’s a parable, but who is the bride, is it the 144k that he keeps hidden from the anti-christ, is it believers? I feel like the bride would have to be unblemished. I am told because I am a believer that I am a “bride” but I am not so sure, as a believer I believe I could be part of the wedding party but I don’t think I have the qualifications beyond that to actually be the “bride”. I am trying to find scripture on the bride, but I don’t know how to search, any suggestions?

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    1. Sorry it’s taken a little time for me to get back with you but I’ve just been super busy this week. I think something that would help your understanding with many of the parables and symbolism of Revelation is understanding that most of the contrast is between the called and the chosen. Many are called but few are chosen… The “kingdom of heaven” is also called the “kingdom of God” and I believe the two are used interchangeably. Those that enter the spiritual kingdom of God are those that overcome in this earthly life.

      So “enter through the narrow gate” – this is the call to believers but wide is the gate and broad is the road the leads to destruction (the cares of this world, worldly lusts, desires for riches, etc.) and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life (Jesus Christ is the “Life”) and to receive it we must die which is why only “few” (the chosen) find it.

      Not everyone that says to Christ, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of God but who is it that calls Christ, Lord? Who is it that prophesizes in the name of Christ? Who is it that cast out demons in the name of Christ? Who is it that does “many wonderful works” in the name of Christ? There is only ONE group of people on the entire planet that satisfy all of these qualifiers and that group would be none other than the hundreds of thousands if not millions of professing Christians all over the world. There is much more responsibility to be placed on the clergymen of Christianity as opposed to each individual Christian primarily because they are deceived because of those who are in leadership.

      The 144K number symbol in Revelation is not a literal number but more concerning the complete foundation of spiritual Israel. A “thousand” biblically represents “foundation” (12,000) x 12 (the tribes of Israel) = 144,000. Remember that the spiritual “Jew” is the believer that has the circumcision of the heart and not the carnal literal Jews that could hardly ever live up to the standards of God’s covenant with them.

      The scriptures you use to reconcile “ages” of judgment and salvation after the saint’s reign with Christ is accurate. God’s salvation doesn’t run out after death and we know from the scriptures that God will be “ALL in ALL” which wouldn’t make a lick of sense if the majority of humanity is to be consigned to eternal torture in some pagan hell.

      The “bride of Christ” is the “Church” but most certainly not the world’s church but Christ’s church. Christ’s “church” is the believers who are “called out” of the world for that is what “church” means… a calling out. To participate in the “wedding ceremony”, called out believers must overcome and Revelation records what is promised to those who overcome. Does not “marriage” symbolize struggle? In the earthly marriage, husbands and wives struggle to overcome their own individual weaknesses and other marital issues. This is also likened to the struggle that believers (the bride of Christ) must go through in their earthly life as well… divorcing the world to gain Christ! We must OVERCOME!

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  29. I don’t mind the wait, I know I’m not the only person who is seeking God’s truth. I want to once again thank you for giving us this forum.

    So, the “chosen” are going to be the saints that rule along side Christ(?)they are different from the called(?) and the called are the bride, and although many are called not all are part of the bride because only the called who understand the truth of scripture(?), only those that are not deceived by the organized “lie” of the earthly churches(?), also, Israel is the wife of the Father and mother of Christ (symbolically?)

    The serpent who was craftier than all the other animals, nothing says he is immortal, your children will strike the heal and his will stomp the head, but nothing says the “serpent” lives immortally, does it?

    The below is a separate “brain-storming” session that still invokes some questions that I am trying to research and come to a way of speaking truth with grace.

    I liken our current church leaders to the Pharasees of Christ’s day who knew a Messiah would be sent by God but denied the man who came to save us because he didn’t look the way they had decided he should. Although, these men may or may not have changed scripture by interpretation, they held their “flock” in fear of retribution if they did not follow the “biblical law” as they preached.

    I have struggled with whether to stay with the church I am attending and your statement to someone else about allowing God to move in them to stay or go helped me stay grounded and although I am challenge by our pastor on a couple of his sermons, God has not said go, he says “spread My truth”. This is difficult when I get such push-back from the miss-informed “hell” is a place believers. I want to just crawl into my mental shell and just agree and leave, but God says to me that I am one of His messengers & I am to speak truth regardless of the consequenses. So, while I disagree with sermons our pastor teaches, there are nuggets of knowledge that drop. The sermon series, “difference Maker” living a transformed life, unfortunately includes the need to “transform” the building we meet in, but, the nuggets were these:

    First, a family who was looking for a new church met our pastor, being inspired, looked the church up and said the building did not seem like the church he was told about, he checked it a couple different ways, which gave our pastor an in about the building “transform” part. A bit of history here, our church is debt free, the church owns the land and has no mortgage so as a church we have been able to contribute to missionaries in state, nation & world, we are able to go out into the community and help individuals with personal needs like yard work, house painting, etc., we support the neighborhood school, the church does a lot of “good samiritan” work, but the building is old and is unable to house the number of people coming to worship. I am conflicted here because the message is not all the truth as they do preach “hell, but they are bringing people to Christ. When the pastor spoke of this family seeing the building not representing (in their mind) what the values are, it occured to me the Pharasees did the same with Christ.

    Second, William Tindale who risked his life to bring the word of God to the masses. The organized religion of the day did not want the “common” folk to have the word, they wanted to force us to come to them so they could “spin” the bible to their benefit(?) maybe, or to maintain the flock fear by inventing this “hell place” even though Christ died for the sins of the world. William Tindale was executed for trying to bring the “light of the world” to all. Like many of us, I guess, I feel totally unqualified for what I feel God is calling me to do.

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    1. The “chosen” are the saints that will rule with Christ and they are also the bride of Christ. The “called” are neither, as they are those that hear the initial call but for a variety of reasons they leave their spiritual “heavenly habitation” either by going back to the world (the sea) or back to the church (the earth). Israel was nothing more than a foreshadowing of what was to come in the spiritual. Just as God called out the earthly Israelite’s to be a special people chosen from all the nations, God will also call out and choose a spiritual nation to serve as wise judges that will ultimately save the world.

      Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIOURS (plural) shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau (the carnal man in all of us); and the kingdom (God’s temple which is YOU!) shall be the Lord’s.

      Only God has immortality… (1 Timothy 6:16) so no the serpent is NOT immortal. Revelation 20:10 tells us that the devil will be “tormented” day and night for the ages of the ages but what does this mean? The word “tormented” comes from the Greek verb “basanizō” and it is same word translated in scripture as pained, tossed, vexed, and toiling…

      Revelation 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and PAINED to be delivered.

      Matthew 14:24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, TOSSED with waves: for the wind was contrary.

      2 Peter 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, VEXED his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

      Mark 6:48 And he saw them TOILING in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he came unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.

      Does the word “tormented” seem like an appropriate translation for the Greek verb “basanizō”? Possibly, but the problem is that most translations add “for ever and ever” to whatever this torment is that the devil suffers. Once we reconcile that the devils torment is not for ever and ever, then we can truly understand the purpose of his torment. This is the primary definition of “basanizō” in biblical usage according to Dr. Strong’s Concordance- to test (metals) by the touchstone, which is a black siliceous stone used to test the purity of gold or silver by the colour of the streak produced on it by rubbing it with either metal.

      If we take out the “metals” and insert the devil, then we can see that the devil will be tested for the ages of the ages (or as long as it takes) for the production of purity. Satan will be purified as there will be no deceived in the new heaven and earth. God will be ALL in ALL!

      The longer you stay in the organized church of Christianity, you will eventually get to the point of leaving and when you do, it will be with 100% confidence and conviction. It is okay to work these things out because it is important for you to know why you are making the decisions you are making. Remember that the “church” does MANY WONDERFUL WORKS but those works are not a substitute for knowing Christ. The church has removed Christ – who is the word of God – and substituted “him” with an alternative word, that is the words of men or what is essentially “anti-Christ”. The word of God tells us that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world but Christians do not believe in the word of God… they deny Christ! If your pastor preached a sermon telling his congregants that hell was a lie, it wouldn’t take long for his church to falter. I know pastors that know that hell is a lie but they teach it anyway because they are afraid that their members will leave if they are told the truth. The church doesn’t bring people to Christ, they bring people to “religion” but God uses this deception for a purpose. In Revelation 18:4 Christ commands “HIS PEOPLE” to come out of HER but who is this woman (HER)? Well, where are God’s people at? IN THE CHURCH right… The church is likened as a “whore” because she has committed fornication with the doctrines and traditions of men instead of being consummated to God through HIS WORD (Christ).

      It is natural to feel inadequate as we all suffer through such carnal emotions in almost every aspect of life. However, throughout life we learn, we grow, then we make mistakes hopefully learning and growing just a little bit more along the way. William Tyndale died for his cause but it was not in vain as his work was eventually published and used as a guide in subsequent English translations including the King James Version. I have been contemplating writing an official book to be published but I would most likely have to find a secular publisher as no Christian book publishing company would endorse a book called, “Hell is a Christian HOAX” and that’s not to even mention how many Christians I’d piss off…

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  30. Hello Suliman, I have a question with regards to John 17:2 it reads “2 according as Thou givest Him authority over all flesh, that everything which Thou hast given to Him, He should be giving it to them, even life eonian.” If eonian life is only for a “few” then how can Jesus give that to all flesh?
    Is “them” referring to the “all flesh”?

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    1. Jesus doesn’t give “eonian life” to all flesh… Eonian life is the gift of an additional age of living that is rewarded to the believers that overcome the world. When that age comes to an end, believers remain alive because they were made immortal in the resurrection. All will be made alive in Christ but each man in his proper order. Being made alive in Christ is referring to being made immortal so the rest of the world is made immortal after and through the judgment which occurs in the second resurrection.

      Let’s suppose that a CEO goes away on a business trip leaving his business under the control and operation of his employees. He promises a vacation to all of his employees when he returns from his business trip. The CEO returns from his trip unbeknownst to the employees and selects only a few of his most trusted and hardworking employees to begin the vacation 10 days early. After the end of those 10 days, the CEO brings all of the employees to the vacation for all to enjoy. So everyone gets to enjoy the vacation but those few trusted employees got to enjoy an additional early vacation.

      Jesus Christ is the CEO, the business is the world, and the employees are humanity (all flesh). The vacation is salvation and the few trusted employees are God’s elect. The 10 day early vacation is “eonian” life”.

      So all of the employees (humanity) didn’t get to experience the 10 day early vacation or (eonian life) but they will ultimately get to experience the vacation (salvation).

      Hope this helps…

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      1. Why does the verse I gave you say ” he gives them “life eonian” I assume “them” refers to the before mentioned “all flesh”. Am I reading this incorrectly?

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      2. God has given Christ POWER AND AUTHORITY over “all flesh” but all flesh are not “chosen” and given to Christ for eonian life. That is reserved for God’s elect… and it is with the same power God used to glorify Christ that Christ will use to give eonian life to all of “them” if you will, that are given to Christ. The “all flesh” is not referring to the “them” it is a reference to who Christ has authority over. Read the verse in several translations as I’ve found that to help with understanding scripture as opposed to reading one translations particular rendering. Bible Gateway’s online bible is a great tool to do this…

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  31. ok, so looking into these “heavenly” messengers 2 Peter 2:4 says that God casts the sinners into hell (the grave) and kept them held in chains of darkness, so technically, they died, like non-believers or those that believe the lie they are confined to the grave until white throne judgement? 1 Jude 6:1-22 also makes reference to this action. God does not kill so they die like we do?
    In Job it also references “sons of God” and Satan (the devil) presenting themselves before God, satan, the deceiver, is earthly(?), but not human(?), he/it is the serpent(?) and who are the “fallen” that are cast into pigs?
    Oh, and btw, this is another scripture that they use to verify that just because the fallen hit their knees in front of Jesus & confessed on the spot he was Lord, because they were “demons” they are not saved, because it was not of their own will. I point back to the scriptures that say only by the spirit can one confess, they have no response.

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    1. Yes, that’s at least my best interpretation of it anyway… I would be willing to listen to anyone try to explain what “chains of darkness” means if that is supposed to be interpreted literally. This is obviously symbolical language and I can’t think of a better way to describe chains of darkness other than being locked (chained) in the state of death.

      Job 17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness.

      When it comes to the spiritual realm, we have to understand that Jesus could see things that we cannot. In Luke 10:18, Jesus stated that he saw Satan fall from “heaven” like lighting… and it is verses like this that people use to justify angels falling from heaven and the literal war in heaven. When we understand that “heaven” is in the mind, it makes much more sense that Jesus actual saw the devil being cast out of the “heaven” of people’s mind no longer being capable of deceiving the inhabitants of heaven. When the “sons of God” present themselves before the Lord, the devil is always present because he dwells in the earth (not the literal earth) the earth of the mind.

      Job 1:7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the EARTH, and from walking up and down in it.

      Now do we really think a talking snake is walking around the literal earth trying to deceive people? Like seriously who in the hell would entertain a talking snake let alone be deceived by it? This is spiritual… Satan dwells in the earth plain of the carnal mind and that is where he deceives and influences humanity.

      Christianity will always attempt justify or defend their doctrines because they are simply protecting what they believe. They do not believe, want, or desire for God to save the world so they work overtime in their efforts to make sure that God’s will doesn’t come to pass. I just had a discussion with someone on YouTube about the purpose of God’s judgment and I quoted Isaiah 26:9 which clearly tells us the the world learns righteousness when God’s judgments are in the earth…

      With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

      The YouTuber didn’t like that verse very much so what she did is she tried to use the word of God to contradict Isaiah 26:9 as if that was a sound strategy. She quoted the next verse as if that somehow disqualified verse 9;

      Isaiah 26:10 Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the Lord.

      She argued… see, God shows favor to the wicked but they don’t learn righteousness… Well, she obviously cannot read because in verse 9, it is God’s JUDGMENT not “favor” that leads to learning righteousness.

      Some people (actually most) cannot be convinced during this age but this of course is the will of God for now…

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  32. I have learned that if God’s word contradicts itself it is due to a mistranslation or misunderstanding of the word itself. I have a website that I reference which points to bible inconsistancies (infidels.org), I use it to research the word, most of the inconsistancies are based on interpretation.

    Scripture does say that He will veil their eyes and deafen their ears so they look but cannot see and listen but cannot hear. I paraphrase obviously, so my interpretation may be flawed, but this is what I gather. When you read that Christ was raised up and walked with them for 40 days before “assending” to sit on the right hand of the Father (I’m sorry if he is the “Father” why would he have a seat next to him), I believe that Christ is his own “entity” and the one who walked in eden with Adam & Eve was in fact “the word” (Christ), even he said no one has seen the Father, here is something that more will deny and those who believe Christ can see all are mis-informed because even he told Peter when asked of his return, he replied “only the Father knows” so, for lack of a better term, Christ can see as a great “prophet” but the future still only clearly viewable by the Father(?) only the Father lives outside time, the son is yet “confined” to linear sight(?).

    I don’t have a strong familiarity of the bible as yet and only a glancing knowledge of the old testiment. I have been studying the new more than old but go into the old for verification. However, there is still loads of things that I have to reconcile, I have a some-what analitical mind and things need to make logical sense to me before I “buy” into them. This is why I believe in universal salvation, it makes logical sense & reconciles scripture without human “interpretation”.

    Thank you for reminding me that “Satan” is not an actual “being” but the deception of our sin-nature, but what of “legion”, who possessed the man in the tombs, who/what are they? He casts them into swine who run off a cliff and are choked in the sea. What you said about “sea”, “earth” and “heaven”, being spiritual realms of mind, but this had to have been visible to those around him as he cast these “unclean spirits” into “swine”.

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  33. Back on this, when I point out the scriptures that support God’s plan to save all, I’m told it is my interpretation and they cannot tell me how I’m “mis-interpreting” a straight statement, how am I mis-interpreting scripture that says “God is patient for all to repent”, how am I mis-interpreting “he is the savior of all mankind, especially believers”, how am I mis-interpreting “God wants all to be saved and come to knowledge of the truth. I know what these “false doctrine” believers argue on these scriptures but they have no scripture to back up what they say so they tell me I’m not intrepreting the scripture right, but I’m not interpreting it, I’m simply taking it at face value, so when I start looking into the idea of “angel” as being mis-translated I know the push-back is going to be astronomical, especially if I find these “messengers” that organized religion call angels are mere humans God used to speak to us again. The bible conveys a long term of silence between God & humans, the “Word” went silent(?), before Christ was born, when he states that no one has seen the Father, I believe that Christ has been the “word” that Adam & Eve, Noah, Daniel, David, Moses, etc were conversing/walking with, but these so called “learned” will not commit to this. I am often astounded at the lack of commitment from these supposed “scholars” of the bible who change the meaning and add/interpret the Word of God to mean something it doesn’t even say anywhere in scripture.

    So, I am looking into the Legion and the “unclean spirits” of scripture and I found that the word translated as “spirit” actually means breath or breathed. So, who/what was legion. I’m starting to think it is something similar to multiple personality disorder, but I’m not sure and the “unseen” realm is something I’m still looking into for scriptural verification not human interpretation.

    One more thing, regarding “angels” as I look into scripture I’m noticing that the word translated as “angel” many times actually means messenger, so I am looking into what that truly means. I am leaning toward God using humans as messengers as I have yet to find anything regarding “inabitants” of the “unseen/heavenly” realm. Your thoughts?

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    1. Again, they DON’T want God to save the whole world so they will twist, change, misinterpret, and flat out LIE to ensure that God’s will, will NOT be done… God “wills” to save all men and while Christians pray, “thy will be done” they prove that they don’t even think God’s will to be good and acceptable. They change “will” to desire” as if that changes anything when it comes to the all mighty all powerful Creator of the Universe. What is stopping God from accomplishing His will or doing everything He so desires? Christians claim that we possess “free will” and God would never violate our god-given free will which is nothing more than a man imposed invention of sovereignty but what scriptures tells us that we have “free will”? You cannot make this stuff up Christians will say and believe just about anything as long as it is endorsed by mother Christianity.

      The word “angel” is tricky because humans have created images of fantasy when it comes to angels. We think of angels as beings of heaven with wings, a halo, and a harp. When we lose a loved one, we say silly stuff like, “they finally got their wings” suggesting that we just transform into “angels” to fly around in heaven I guess. None of this is supported by scripture… it is all religious fantasy. As you have pointed out, the Greek word for angel means messenger and according to Dr. Strong’s Concordance, angel by implication points to a “PASTOR”. In Matthew 25:41, we read that eonian fire has been prepared for the devil and his “angels” but who are devil’s messengers? Christianity believes that the angels of the devil are the literal angels of God’s “heaven” that he supposedly tricked into to following him after the literal war in heaven. I can’t tell you how many Christians have told me that God made hell for the devil and his angels not even realizing that the messengers of the devil are in fact HUMAN. To be more specific, the messengers of the devil are the “pastors” of Christendom. What other group of people are responsible for deceiving the whole world into believing that God is literally going to torture most of humanity in real fire for all eternity? It is but the leaders of Christianity that spread their blasphemous and damnable messages in their temples of terror (churches) not even realizing that it is Satan’s headquarters.

      Legion is just the name given to Christ at his request representing the many evil spirits that were residing in the man. You have to remember that “spirit” is invisible and it represents LIFE. When we believe things we give life to it… When people believe that God will not save the world, that is a DEMON! That is a “demon message” that slanders the word of God which is “life”. Jesus Christ says in John 6:63 ….the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. When we believe something that is against or contrary to the word of God, we have given life and power to demonic forces. Remember Ephesians 6:12;

      For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

      There are spiritual forces of wickedness in a realm that cannot be seen in the physical realm, they exist in the heavenly realm. These forces deal with belief systems, thoughts, and ideas that all reside in the mind. BELIEF in Christ is what saves us so not believing in Christ (who is life) will destroys us.

      There are earthly human messengers and there are heavenly spiritual messengers that are more powerful than humans. Consider these scriptures;

      Satan entered Judas – Luke 22:3 And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, belonging to the number of the twelve.

      Angels ministered to Jesus – Matthew 4:11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him. (I don’t believe these angels were human but rather spiritual messengers of God)

      Jesus Christ was made lower than “angels” – Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. (This of course has to be referring to heavenly messengers because the dis-qualifier is suffering death the angels of heaven do not die, Luke 20:36).

      Legions of angels – Matthew 26:53 Or do you think that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? (These “angels” I believe are the immortal spiritual beings of heaven and not human).

      To be a messenger, all you have to do is be sent… God has messengers, Jesus Christ has messengers, Satan has messengers, and even messengers have messengers…. In the Old Testament there are a few verses that talk about GOD “sending” forth “lying spirits” in the mouths of His prophets… (1 Kings 22:23, 2 Chronicles 18:22). Evil spirits can and do come from God…

      Judges 9:23 Then “God sent an evil spirit” between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:

      1 Samuel 16:23 And it came to pass, when the “evil spirit from God” was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

      They don’t teach this stuff in Sunday school… Where did evil come from? If God is good, how can there be evil? Because you can’t have knowledge and an understanding of good without the knowledge and understanding of evil. That is why both the knowledge of good and evil where in the same tree… they can’t be separated when it comes to the knowledge of it.

      God creates evil…

      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

      God is not evil but He does create it and it is for a purpose which is to instruct in righteousness. Righteousness is produced when evil is overcome. You cannot have an understanding of righteousness without an understanding of evil. How can one be truthful if they have no knowledge or understanding of what being untruthful is? When a liar overcomes his or her lying to become an honest person that is righteousness. Torturing a liar for all eternity in a literal lake of fire is evil and righteousness would never be produced. One of God’s greatest creations of evil is the creation of Satan himself. Isaiah 54:16 calls him God’s “waster to DESTROY” and it is his purpose to serve as God’s instrument of evil in the instruction of knowing good and evil. All of the evil in this world is seen with the physical eye but there are spiritual forces behind the scenes at play responsible for much of it.

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  34. As I continue to dig I’m finding that I have to re-think what is unseen versus what is un-clean (angels v demons). Religion says we must have both, that there cannot be a heaven without a hell therefore, there cannot be an angel without a demon. This is “carnal” thinking (earthly thinking). There is no reason that both must exist, and there is nothing in the scripture that says one cannot exist without the other.

    In the old testement, God/Christ(?) speaks directly to some of us, Noah, Mosses, Daniel, David, etc., with instructions and help, in the new Testement God himself(?) sends messengers to us, Mary, Joseph, Shepherds, Kings, etc., giving notice of the coming of the Saviour. Then Christ is the messenger who brings us the word of God and the new covenent between the Father and creation. After He rises from the grave (hades), He brings us news of a “helper” that will be with us once He assends to sit on the right hand of the Father. So all in all there are God’s messengers which came before Christ to bring the message, telling those they contacted not to fear them, which seems to imply they are strange looking and maybe fierce looking, once Christ went to sit on the right hand of the Father, we were reinstated as messengers of God’s word. Similar to those of the old testement, God speaks to us through the holy spirit. I am still yet unsure of the “demon” side of this.

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  35. Yes, God created everything or there are 2 equal powers one of good and one of evil. Here is what I notice with “christianity” although they say they believe God is all powerful, they preach like God is weaker at times than man. Scripture says the only “unforgivable sin is blasheme of the holy spirit, I’m digging into that because that seems pretty perminent and I’m pretty sure I’ve done that. Religion says it’s not the only one, denying Jesus is the saviour is unforgivable.

    This is the Roman Catholic list of what baspheme of the Holy Spirit sins are:

    despair: which consists in thinking that one’s own malice is greater than Divine Goodness, as the Master of the Sentences teaches,[7]
    presumption: if a man wants to obtain glory without merits[8] or pardon without repentance[9]
    resistance to the known truth,
    envy of a brother’s spiritual good, i.e., of the increase of Divine grace in the world,
    impenitence, i.e., the specific purpose of not repenting a sin,
    obstinacy, whereby a man, clinging to his sin, becomes immune to the thought that the good searched in it is a very little one.

    If there is unforgivable sin, then what would be the point in “accepting” Jesus as my saviour if I can’t be forgiven. As I read through scripture and dig into true translation I see often that God’s time-line is based on “age”. Even science concedes “age” in their descriptions of “evolution” for lack of a better term. The different ages where we had different types of dinosaur life, Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous, so, as I study scripture and dig into history I find God’s time-line is not “eternal” but “age” based. I fully expect to stand before the throne and have my earthly “works” judged just as scripture states, I fully expect to gain reward & suffer loss, but when it comes to this one “sin” I am lost forever(?) scripture, it seems, correctly translated says this sin will not be forgiven in this age or the age to come, which says to me it is NOT an unforgivable sin and will be forgiven in the age of judgement, after the 1000 year peace and the deceiver is let loose for a short time, when all stand before the white throne, is this correct?

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    1. Yes, you are correct… there is no such thing as an unforgivable or unpardonable sin. The punishment for all sin is temporary. Part of the problem with this interpretation is the mistranslation of Mark 3:28-29;

      “Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”—

      The first problem is the improper translating of the Greek participle “ou” as it is rendered as the word “never” in Mark 3:29 even though it is properly translated as the word “not” in 1,210 other scriptures in the New Testament. The bible translators weren’t even consistent when they inserted their lies into the word of God…

      Matthew 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will “NOT” (same Greek word “ou”) be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

      There is a big difference between the words “never” and “not” but the bible translators needed to justify there eternal condemnation heresy. We already know that eternal is mistranslated but the word condemnation is also not appropriate. The Greek word “krisis” is translated as condemnation, damnation, and judgment. The appropriate translation is judgment and there is no such thing as eternal judgment. Judgment is age-lasting and it makes no sense to even be subjected to judgment for all eternity. When a person commits a crime, they go to court to face judgment but the judgment comes to an end they don’t go to court for all eternity.

      When it comes to this so called “unforgivable sin”, they always leave out the part that says, “in this age (world) or in the age (world) to come. For them, it is insignificant but in reality it makes all the difference in the world. Anyone guilty of blaspheming the Holy Spirit (which most at the time don’t even know it) will not be forgiven in this present age. They die being subjected to eonian destruction (death until the resurrection). While most of the world is dead and in the grave while the saints are experiencing eonian life with Christ, that will be the age to come in which blasphemers of the Holy Spirit are still not forgiven. In the following age, which is the age of judgment, they will be forgiven which conclusively proves that mercy does indeed TRIUMPH over judgment.

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  36. Hello Sulaiman Randolph,

    I was told about your site and visited it today. I see you have learned from L. Ray Smith. I also read his site before his death several years ago. Have you ever visited this site? iswasandwillbe.com Mike Vinson is the owner of this site. It appears we have many of the same teachings. I have only read a few items so far on your site. Anyway I wanted to reach out and say hello.

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  37. Good morning, it’s been awhile, I have been studying diligently. God has sent me back to the book of Revalation, I’ve read the first 3 chapters and the theme to the 7 assemblies to the be aware of a false teaching of the word of God, that some have started to adopt that teaching and not to be deceived. Since modern religion has adopted the false doctrine of “eternal damnation” a “heaven/hell” theory, I believe that is what we were being warned about. I recently re-opened ucg.org and started reading the booklets offered which reminds me that if our “eternal soul” (not in scripture, but a theory of Plato) will be sent to either of these 2 places there would be no reason for a resurrection to judgement because the judgement would have already been made at “death”, right? Anyway, I have once more pointed to scripture regarding the true gospel with no response from our pastor. I know you warned me that this would be the case, but I was hoping truth would prevail in this. I believe my friend is changing her view though. I feel God pushing me to bring His truth to light, little by little. I believe He is directing me to my youngest son now who is a very “religious” man but believes the lie of heaven/hell. I have not yet approached him on this yet as I am still unsure of myself & my message so I am working out how to begin and praying for the guidance. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

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    1. Truth will prevail but only in God’s timing not our own… For me, caring about the spiritual state of friends, love ones, and just people in general was a heavy burden and I had to learn how to free myself from this because I do not control any of it. God chooses who to draw out of blindness and He also chooses who to use as His instrument of deliverance. I’m not telling you not to talk to your son or to stop trying to get your pastor’s attention but I would caution you not to be so invested in the outcome because it just might not be their timing to hear and understand the truth. God could be using you to knock off the shell while He is preparing someone else to hit the heart. Don’t get caught up trying to hit someone’s heart if God hasn’t called you to do that. You will only end up disappointed with the feelings of failure.

      Matthew 10:14 Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.

      Don’t sweat it if people do not listen to you for your words will be used as a testimony against them…

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      1. That was what I needed to hear. It’s funny because when I believed non-believers would spend eternity in torment I carried a burden to try to “save” them, because I thought if I didn’t get them to “believe” they would be doomed. God finally got through to me that it was NOT my job to save, He had already done that through His only begotten son, it was my job to deliver a message of hope, and up to Him, who receives it. As I continued down this path He opened my eyes to the truth in the gospel, “good news”. Slowly, I became aware of what the “gospel” was and eternal torment or total destruction, did not sound like “good news”. I was bothered by a god who would create any living being that he knew would either wipe out completely or torment forever. This was a turning point for my belief in a God who will save all, so I started digging into the other beliefs to see if I could prove or disprove each. What I found recently is that the beliefs that leave many to suffer or be destroyed make rejection of Christ an unforgivable sin which contradicts scripture. Actually, it just really hit home right now, anyone who is a non-believer according to the eternal hell or total destruction doctrines has committed the unforgivable sin, even though God said in scripture the sin that will not be forgiven in this age or the next is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and that means that after the 1,000 year reign even those who committed that sin will stand with the rest of us before the throne and our “works” will be judged, some will received reward, others will suffer loss but they to will be saved. God wants all to be saved and come to knowledge of the truth, He says that because He knows. Jesus said “forgive them Father for they know not what they do”, I believe this includes the religious leaders through the ages. Keep up the good work and thank you for the guidance.

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  38. I have done a bit more research regarding ucg.org and I have found that they believe in complete destruction of the “wicked” those who deliberately reject the teachings of God. They claim it will only be a few, however, if you are to go with all who “deliberately” reject the teachings of God as they define the gospel, then it is all who believe in eternal torment & all who believe in universal salvation, they do to scripture what the “hell” believers do, they manipulate it to say what they need it to in order to support their theory, neither have been able to show me scripture to support the idea that God intends to save all doesn’t mean “all” or the scripture that says He is saviour of all mankind, especially believers really only means either for the eternal torment believers it is that He is saviour of all but all will not accept or destruction believers say that the 2nd resurrection is for those who don’t know or died before Christ to accept Christ, ucg also speaks of a third ressurection of those wicked who do not have a option, they are condemned and were at death, they do not have a “2nd chance”. I’m not sure where I fit into this “scheme” but it is probably in this so-called third non-biblically supported ressurection. Both belief systems disregard God’s statement about every knee & every tongue, they disregard that only by the spirit can one confess, they say it will not be of choice that these will kneel but of awe (hell believers) the scripture every knee/every tongue to the destruction believers are only for the “2nd” ressurection not the 3rd, this is how each rejects universal salvation, neither is supported in scripture, but I am learning from each of these and thank God that the truth of universal salvation will not exclude these miss-lead peoples.

    I have been warned by my hell believing friends to be careful of the “feel good” doctrine, however, if universal salvation is not truth, then I will either burn for eternity or be totally destroyed because I don’t believe “right”.

    Just wanted to update you on the website I referenced prior and let you know this is not a universal salvation site.

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  39. I think you explanation of Lazarus and the rich man is only partly correct. It doesn’t pertain to gentiles vs Jews. Christ was talking to Pharisees and addressing their beliefs and practices. As pointed out in the Catholic Encyclopedia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01055a.htm) Christ was speaking to them in a language they could understand:

    “In the Holy Bible, the expression “the Bosom of Abraham” is found only in two verses of St. Luke’s Gospel (16:22-23). It occurs in the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus the imagery of which is plainly drawn from the popular representations of the unseen world of the dead which were current in Our Lord’s time. According to the Jewish conceptions of that day, the souls of the dead were gathered into a general tarrying-place the Sheol of the Old Testament literature, and the Hades of the New Testament writings (cf. Luke 16:22; in the Greek 16:23). A local discrimination, however, existed among them, according to their deeds during their mortal life. In the unseen world of the dead the souls of the righteous occupied an abode or compartment of their own which was distinctly separated by a wall or a chasm from the abode or compartment to which the souls of the wicked were consigned. The latter was a place of torments usually spoken of as Gehenna (cf. Matthew 5:29, 30; 18:9; Mark 9:42 sqq. in the Latin Vulgate) — the other, a place of bliss and security known under the names of “Paradise” (cf. Luke 23:43) and “the Bosom of Abraham” (Luke 16:22-23). And it is in harmony with these Jewish conceptions that Our Lord pictured the terrible fate of the selfish Rich Man, and on the contrary, the glorious reward of the patient Lazarus. ”

    Christ was addressing the Pharisees and telling them that only by obeying the word of God would they inherit eternal life. He had seen that they were motivated more by money than by the word of God (Lk.16: 13-16) and he sought to show them their sin by speaking to them in a way they would understand, using their own false conceptions of the after life to illustrate his point.

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    1. Paul, thanks for your comment but I totally disagree… the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is comparing rich vs poor but since when is being literally poor a good thing? Since when is being rich necessarily a bad thing? One of Jesus’s own disciples was a rich man… (Matthew 27:57).

      This is a spiritual teaching regarding the spiritually rich (the Jews) and the spiritually poor (the Gentiles). The Pharisees certainly didn’t see or hear the spiritual language in which Christ was speaking…

      Matthew 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

      Just like the missed the fact that Jesus Christ was their own Messiah, they had no clue that God was about to remove them (the Jews) from their spiritual standing and replace them with the Gentiles…

      The first shall be last and the last shall be first…

      The Jews received the spiritual blessings of God first but they will enter the kingdom last…

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  40. Here is something more I concluded to help disprove the popular beliefs of the many who are being deceived, maybe it is just to solidify my own belief, not sure, however, both Luke 12:8-10 & Matthew 12:31-32 state that only blasphemy of the holy spirit will not be forgiven in this age or the next (some interpretations say it is the eternal sin) I believe all will agree that is what scripture says and yet the hell & destruction believers, although won’t actually confirm this, say that denial of Christ is the only unforgiven sin. Maybe they do not consider this a sin(?), but scripture specifically includes this as a forgiven sin, what would be the agrument for their belief and not scripture? I told my friend this, the one I thought was coming around and she turned it to her length of time as a “studying” believer over my short time of being “studying” believer (I say it this way because I have always been a believer, just not reading & studying the bible until about 5 years ago). Anyway, she really didn’t give me a good argument for this non-scriptural belief except that I was mistaken and mis-interpreting what is written, she has yet to see that I am not interpreting scripture at ll, simply reading what is written. I see these 2 systems as a direct contradiction of God’s word even without translation, by saying those who do not accept Christ as their saviour will burn eternally or be wiped from existence means this is the unforgivable sin, right?

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    1. There is no such thing as an unpardonable, unforgivable, or eternal sin… even blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will eventually be forgiven. According to Christianity, any sin is an eternal sin if you don’t confess your sins and accept Jesus as your savior because your ultimate destination would be an eternity in hell or eternal destruction. Virtually everything that Christianity teaches is a contradiction of God’s word.

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  41. Wow just wow Mr.Randolph.
    I don’t think it was unintentional me just happening by all your studies, and truths.Your studies have opened my eyes,& have helped me to reevaluate my beliefs,& my own studies.I have done my own studies, after reading everything of your own,& I can tell you this.This has been a big “Life changer” for me,& I cannot express in word’s how truly blessed I am to just happen by all your Truths,& knowledge…It has led me to my own truths,and has led me to acquire and attain more knowledge.I usually won’t take what a person has to say to be true until I go & actually study for myself.You have a gift my friend,& “Happening by you” has changed my life..Actually God has changed my life, you just helped me along the way(Not knowing)…It’s rare to come across somebody whos beliefs are so similar…And somebody who gets it..I’ve been called many things, such as crazy, delusional, wacko,& down right wrong in my understandings…I’ve even lost family over it.But what I take to heart is, They hated him(Christ) before they did me,& my beliefs.You keep doing what you’re doing because you are helping those along the way that do believe the same..I look forward to more..I sincerely hope you keep writing the truth.I understand some are not meant to ever come to the truth for Gods Will,& purposes, no matter the “Truth” you’ve put in front of them.But you sure have helped me in many ways.I’m very thankful!!

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    1. Hi Miranda and thanks for your comment! I am glad that the information on this site was useful for you and all the best to you in your journey in search of the truth. If you have any questions about the material on this site please do not hesitate to ask. God bless you!

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  42. Actually I do have a question. I’m curious about your intake on what The “Falling away” in Revelations means to you, or how you interpret it? Thank you in advance.

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  43. I guess it would be in 2 Thessalonians when it talks about the “FALLING AWAY” before the son of perdition is revealed,& not Revelations..My mistake.But I’d like to know your thoughts on that, because there is so much controversy over what the Falling away actually means.

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    1. Hi again Miranda… yes the “falling away” teaching is a very complex topic that I really don’t want to go to deep into as I’ve planned to write on the subject at some point. Let’s take a quick look at the verses…
      2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
      These scriptures are interpreted within Christianity to reference an event known as the “Great Apostasy” with Christians not even realizing that Christianity as an entire institution is in a state of ongoing apostasy. However, this message shouldn’t be interpreted solely as a one time future event but it should include an individual personal event that takes place in the heart of every believer. There is no doubt that there is a “literal” day that is future in which the Lord will return to earth to establish His church, however, there is also a “day” in which the Lord comes to every believer in their own personal life. When we begin our walk with God, we start to build our spiritual house. God allows us to do it so that He can tear it down for this is just the order in which God has deemed it necessary for the most effective spiritual development. So who is the “man of sin, the son of perdition”? The Anti-Christ? Mark my words, there is NO such thing as a one man “Anti-Christ” that will literally sit in a physical temple and claim to be God. That is nonsense. Miranda, the man of sin is YOU! You are the son (or daughter) of perdition. We are all children of sin on the road to the grave. It is the carnal self in all of us that opposes and exalts itself above all that is of God. Where is the temple of God? If you live in the American South, you will find a temple of Christianity on literally every other street but God doesn’t dwell in the buildings of men…
      1 Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
      You are the temple of God and God cannot dwell in you while the carnal man inside you of sits at the throne of your heart submitting to the will and law of the flesh.
      You must “fall away” after building your spiritual house on the sand (Matthew 7:26) before you can come out of Mystery Babylon… where are God’s people? In the church right? Well, God is calling His people out of the corrupt church of man. Who is the “great whore” that sits upon many waters (nations) spoken of in Revelation 17:1? The answer is Christianity and this is the Lord’s plea to his people…
      Revelation 18:4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;
      When the “man of sin” is reveled in our lives, we “fall away”, and God prepares us to come out of the “great whore”!

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      1. Amen, and I cannot thank you enough.I was asking specifically on this because I started to rethink and reread over and over what this “falling away ” meant. And it came to me, that possibly this “Falling away” was a falling away from our sin(Carnal nature).Because I too know that this “Man of sin” is not Literal,& that the Son of sin wasn’t going to literally reveal himself..But you have been a great help & I sincerely appreciate you taking the time out of your life to answer me back.Sometimes I need a little boost.I cannot wait for you to write more.I am looking forward too it.You’re full of wisdom,and you have been a wonderful help in my studies.

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